# What’s up with the cheese?

**URL:** <https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-s-up-with-the-cheese/218847>\
**Category:** Food & Drink\
**Created:** [April 15, 2022, 9:35pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-s-up-with-the-cheese/218847 "2022-04-15T21:35:07Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Explant](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/explant/32/130551_2.png) [@Explant](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Explant)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2022, 5:22pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-s-up-with-the-cheese/218847/50 "2022-04-28T17:22:23Z")

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> [@afterspivak](#):
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> > [@Explant](#):
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> > There are AMAZING cheeses made locally. I love them.
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> What? Where?
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> Guy

These guys have amazing stuff. Taiwanese woman and foreign husband. I love their cheeses!

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There is another good one in taipei. My mandarin is failing me now. I remember their brand sounds something like munmun nong, but cant remember exactly. Only had it once, was quite good.

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**Post date:** [April 28, 2022, 10:03pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-s-up-with-the-cheese/218847/51 "2022-04-28T22:03:33Z")

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> [@Explant](#):
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> Basically, as far as food goes, if want good (meaning quality+yummy) it is actually a very expensive country to eat in. There are AMAZING cheeses made locally. I love them.

So where did find this local cheese, I may buy it if price is not sky high.

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**Post date:** [April 28, 2022, 11:56pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-s-up-with-the-cheese/218847/52 "2022-04-28T23:56:46Z")

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> [@monkeyflake](#):
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> Is this common? I feel like I’ve been betrayed by one of my favourite foods 😅

I’ve learned not to order cheese danbing apart from a few places since it is invariably processed American cheese. Sometimes they’ll even write cheddar in Chinese, but oh it’s not cheddar.

Even supposed decent burger places just use American cheese on their burgers. Find your favorites and stick to them.

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**Author:** ![Explant](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/explant/32/130551_2.png) [@Explant](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Explant)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2022, 5:35am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-s-up-with-the-cheese/218847/53 "2022-04-29T05:35:18Z")

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Literally right above your post hehe. Very good.

cheese has to be expensive here if its truly local. I would be highly suspicious if ts local and heap, that just doesnt add up. We arent a cattle country.

Its hard to get cheap prices like USA with their better climate, massive land and huge subsidies. Just wont happen.

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**Post date:** [May 15, 2022, 11:03am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-s-up-with-the-cheese/218847/54 "2022-05-15T11:03:24Z")

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I did buy some mature pasteurised milk cheese (that’s what it says on the label) from IKEA was a lot better than I expected, after packet had been open a couple of days.  
Almost cheddar.

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**Post date:** [May 15, 2022, 11:06am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-s-up-with-the-cheese/218847/55 "2022-05-15T11:06:21Z")

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I mean based on how expensive dairy in general is here, I don’t think it’s a huge surprise that cheese is rare

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**Author:** ![Brianjones](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/eada6e/32.png) [@Brianjones](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Brianjones)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2022, 11:13am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-s-up-with-the-cheese/218847/56 "2022-05-15T11:13:16Z")

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Cheese just like baking bread or whaatever isnt that hard to make. Taiwan exagerrates everything. Mostly you have to start with good ingredients.

Sure enough when somebody sets up a vineyard here its going to be way overblown and pricey.

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**Author:** ![afterspivak](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/ccd318/32.png) [@afterspivak](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/afterspivak)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2022, 11:25am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-s-up-with-the-cheese/218847/57 "2022-05-15T11:25:00Z")

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> [@Brianjones](#):
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> Cheese just like baking bread or whaatever

This is an interesting point.

The change in bread in Taipei over the past decade is astonishing. Once people figure it out, off they go.

It’s not inconceivable that the same thing could, perhaps, happen with locally made cheese, though obviously we’re still a long ways off from that.

Guy

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**Author:** ![Explant](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/explant/32/130551_2.png) [@Explant](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Explant)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2022, 11:33am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-s-up-with-the-cheese/218847/58 "2022-05-15T11:33:07Z")

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> [@Brianjones](#):
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> Cheese just like baking bread or whaatever isnt that hard to make. Taiwan exagerrates everything. Mostly you have to start eith good ingredients.
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> Sure enough when somebody sets up a vineyard here its going to be way overblown and pricey.

Thats true . But to be fair milk is way more perishable and quite expensive to produce on scale in taiwan at prices remotely similar to say the US/Australia etc. Its done here, but the costs are waaaay higher here than big countries. I kind of just accept the price here on that one. then cheese is even more obviously. I wonder if the taiwan cheese makers are using taiwanese milk or imported?

Wheat is cheap and stores well. Like coffee, no excuses for the outrageous gouging imo.

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**Post date:** [May 15, 2022, 11:44am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-s-up-with-the-cheese/218847/59 "2022-05-15T11:44:27Z")

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The wheat market will be messed up for years due to Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.

Coffee is facing its own challenges, partly related to changing climates and also related to the global competition to buy high quality beans.

Guy

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**Post date:** [May 15, 2022, 11:49am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-s-up-with-the-cheese/218847/60 "2022-05-15T11:49:22Z")

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America also pays a lot dairy subsidies from what I understand

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**Post date:** [May 15, 2022, 12:35pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-s-up-with-the-cheese/218847/61 "2022-05-15T12:35:00Z")

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Sorta sounds like karma haha.

Ya, the us subsidizes a lot. But so does taiwan! The US is just better at getting returns from their subsidies.

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**Post date:** [June 9, 2022, 7:46am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-s-up-with-the-cheese/218847/62 "2022-06-09T07:46:08Z")

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Not sure how new it is, but I came across this Tasmanian cheddar cheese in the Ximen Carrefour the other day. I bought the vintage one called Wineglass Bay.

I don’t think it’s worth paying 70% more for compared with the President cheddar cheese I usually buy (NT$199 for 140 g versus NT$169 for 200 g), but it’s not bad either.

 ![foto_no_exif (4)](https://forumosauploads-12829.kxcdn.com/original/3X/f/7/f7dc7088ee155d6a61e5f6dafd19c9cbf530edb5.jpeg)

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**Post date:** [June 9, 2022, 9:01am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-s-up-with-the-cheese/218847/63 "2022-06-09T09:01:31Z")

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I get GRASS and COW, but how did I get involved?

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**Post date:** [June 9, 2022, 9:02am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-s-up-with-the-cheese/218847/64 "2022-06-09T09:02:45Z")

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> [@Brianjones](#):
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> Cheese just like baking bread or whaatever isnt that hard to make. Taiwan exagerrates everything. Mostly you have to start with good ingredients.

Ingredients or lack thereof is the problem. Anyways, after making it you need to ripen and store the cheeses, bigger problem and expensive. Imported cheeses are expensive for a reason, either airfreight or reefer (cooled/refrigerated container) and calculation of loss of product (spoilage). They also need to be stored at appropriate conditions.

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**Post date:** [June 9, 2022, 9:07am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-s-up-with-the-cheese/218847/65 "2022-06-09T09:07:07Z")

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Is this production method even legal?

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**Post date:** [June 9, 2022, 2:46pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-s-up-with-the-cheese/218847/66 "2022-06-09T14:46:55Z")

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I am buying slices of Gouda, Edam, Maasdam, at Carrefour. I used to pick up the small cheese blocks at Ikea, but they did not have any last time I went.

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**Post date:** [June 11, 2022, 8:01am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-s-up-with-the-cheese/218847/67 "2022-06-11T08:01:22Z")

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I’m using the IKEA cheese opposed to difficult to get strong cheddar.  
Yes sells out quickly often none In so I buy a few at a time.

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**Post date:** [July 3, 2022, 5:35pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/what-s-up-with-the-cheese/218847/68 "2022-07-03T17:35:43Z")

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Never bought or tried it. but as a mention for the vegetarians and vegans. a few people have been saying good things about these 2 places making vegan cheese.

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Bump. I can’t believe I’m asking this, but has anyone seen vintage / extra-aged cheddar anywhere in the past couple of months? I haven’t seen it in the Danshui Carrefour, the Zhishan Carrefour, or the Zhishan City Super. (Or Costco, but I haven’t seen it in Costco going back to 2020 or so.)

I don’t really _want_ to go across the city for cheddar, but, well, it wouldn’t be the first time.

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