Whatever happened to decent wholesome family TV?

Uplifting shows with morals, like “Little House on the Prairie” - no bad language, nudity or violence?

We still have the Simpsons.

Check out “Monk”…

check out this movie

imdb.com/title/tt0092115/

Erm…Modern Family sweeps up Emmy every year. Possibly the best in decency and wholesomeness to ever find its way to the small screen. Amazing how they do it without angels or priests.

It seems today
that all you see
is violence in movies and sex on TV

But where are those good old fashion values
On which we used to rely?

Lucky, there’s a family guy!
Lucky there’s a man who,
positivly can do,
all the things that make us
laugh and cry!

He’s–A–Family–Guy!!! :whistle:

[quote=“Funk500”]check out this movie

imdb.com/title/tt0092115/[/quote]

Julia Louis Dreyfus really only knows how to make stinkers when it comes to movie choices.

It has been replaced by those “soft-pornographic” shows. :doh:

So much is Reality TV now…I can’t believe the stuff they actually make reality shows out of.

Yeah pet groomers, hair stylists, dodgy new jersey bakers, brides to be planning weddings…to name just a few.

The culture changed, and demand for those kinds of shows diminished. Despite the predictable sarcasm from the peanut gallery here, it really is a pity.

That’s because of the money involved, both in terms of expenditures and income. In terms of the latter, many reality TV shows rake it in with those special phone numbers people have to call to vote for people. They all make money from advertising, so all things being equal there, the issue is one of lowering expenses. The production costs are generally a lot lower for reality TV shows. Sometimes, they need a house, for instance, but they rarely need a studio these days. Often, they’re shot at a location such as someone’s house or business, and those fees are minimal or non-existant (because there’s often some sort of product tie-in or free advertising for the business). The expenses, such as renovating a room of a house with a $10,000 budget are peanuts. Then they basically need a film crew, but they don’t need thirty people for that. They can probably do it with about three people. They need a host or two or three also, but they’re a lot cheaper than actors, I suspect. There’s little to no scripting, re-takes, etc. Compare all of that to a TV show shot in a studio or properly on location out and about in a city (where they’d need all sorts of permits that would cost a bunch), and where there are script writers, several camera crews and lots of real actors they have to pay.

Basically, reality TV is a licence to print money. TV companies don’t make shows to make good shows. They make shows to make money. If a good show happens to come out of that, it’s incidental.

Incidentally, reality TV shows are basically a way for TV companies in certain countries to meet government requirements that there must be a certain amount of locally produced content. I read somewhere once that because TV companies in the U.S. make a ton of their money off their big shows in the U.S. market, they then sell them on to other countries relatively cheaply. As such, in order to buy such a show, it actually costs a TV company in Australia something like half what it would if it produced its own similar kind of show. Producing a police investigation drama is really expensive, and it’s considerably cheaper to just buy a series of CSI, plus, because it’s already done really well in the U.S. for a couple of seasons, it’s a fairly sure bet. This has had some good and bad effects. The bad effect is that certain TV companies fill up their locally produced content with absolutely awful reality TV and then buy a ton of American shows (which I’m not complaining about, just the crap local shows). Some others have had to really lift their game and produce top-notch drama that will draw in enough viewers to be profitable.

You don’t have to watch TV, it has a button which easily allows the device to be turned OFF.

Stevie: I realise this. That’s why I don’t even own a TV. I stopped watching it years ago because there was too much crap.

Steviebike, I feel the same way, so we don’t have cable, and our small CRT TV is collecting dust, unplugged, in a corner. (Anyone want it, cheap? :laughing:) But the thread topic is still a reasonable question for those who do want to watch some, and want to find something suitable for their values, and/or their kids.

While Dragonbabe was stuck in hospital for over three weeks early this year, she did have a TV, and found one show worth watching, that had positive values, Junior Masterchef Australia. I’ve praised it, and its adult version, Masterchef Australia, before here for having a positive, encouraging atmosphere. Judges and contestants praise and encourage each other, and people have fun at it, especially the kids, in shows entirely compatible with decent, wholesome family values. There are also nature shows on several channels, shows that teach us about other countries and their cultures and food, evolution, pregnancy, twins, animals, science, and so on – on Animal Planet, Discovery, National Geographic, and Travel and Living. Add Mythbusters, of course, which teaches you how to shoot a cannonball through your neighbors’ house, nearly killing them, and you have a fairly decent set of family programs to choose from.

Not having a TV, we kinda miss all that, except for Jr. Masterchef, which we still get via the internet.

Sorry, I was being a bit cheeky! :smiley:

I actually watch TV, I’m selective though. Documentaries, films (some trashy ones) and some news (again selective). Wholesome TV, has it ever been? I think even things like the Walton’s could be perceived as brain-washing. Depends on which side you sit on. I’m really not sure how I feel, I grew up watching all sorts of rubbish but, I don’t think I’m a TV casualty though!

The only truly wholesome show I can think of is the Antiques Roadshow (BBC)? Weird to think of that show as ‘wholesome’ but it is a show the whole family can watch with no bias towards anything, other than antiques?

Blast from the past. The theme music is permanently seared into my memory.

Blast from the past. The theme music is permanently seared into my memory.[/quote]

:slight_smile: Goodnight John boy :slight_smile:

[quote=“Steviebike”]
The only truly wholesome show I can think of is the Antiques Roadshow (BBC)? Weird to think of that show as ‘wholesome’ but it is a show the whole family can watch with no bias towards anything, other than antiques?[/quote]

Capitalist pig! People showing off their inherited wealth, when really they should be giving it up for the state to manage.

As for the Waltons being wholesome… Well it was a show about values that nobody on earth could ever manage to live up to. Here is what happened to the actors in that show: http://waltonswebpage.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1056

[quote=“superking”][quote=“Steviebike”]
The only truly wholesome show I can think of is the Antiques Roadshow (BBC)? Weird to think of that show as ‘wholesome’ but it is a show the whole family can watch with no bias towards anything, other than antiques?[/quote]

Capitalist pig! People showing off their inherited wealth, when really they should be giving it up for the state to manage.

As for the Waltons being wholesome… Well it was a show about values that nobody on earth could ever manage to live up to. Here is what happened to the actors in that show: http://waltonswebpage.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1056[/quote]
Just like the Carry On mob, in real life they were nuts.