[quote=“cctang”]zeugmite is right. You’re focused on the wrong words here, tommy.
He said that there is no more room for “one China, one Taiwan” than there is for “two Chinas”. In other words, both things are about equal from a political point of view. He’s not talking geographically or scientifically. He’s talking about the political truth.
And he’s right. “Two Chinas” or “one China, one Taiwan” will translate into effective Taiwanese independence, and at this point in time, and would also translate into PLA Marines marching down the streets of Taipei.[/quote]
yes unfortunately we have to deal with the pragmatic as well as the idealistic.
And yes, actually i did know that one china, one taiwan, and two china equates to the same vein of thinking (i.e. Taiwan Independence).
Ideally: YES TAiwan is and has been independent of China for much of its “political” existance and should continue to be so if its people wish (per the idea of democracy)
Pragmatic: The CCP is in control of a people that vastly outnumbers Taiwan in People numbers and could over-run the island. All they would have to do is send over MILLIONS of regular unarmed citizens to TAiwan. And the islands military could not shoot them all even if they did that (and THAT would be grossly wrong in the eyes of the world). So in fact China could take over Taiwan without a shot being fired (from Chinas side) by sending over MILLIONS OF REFUGEES so to speak. Unarmed civilians, men , women, children ,babies, dogs, cats , rabbits (you get the picture). And essentially taiwan would be overrun.
so yes pragmatically, china is the far stronger entity here and holds almost all the cards. Taiwan only has one Ace up its sleeve . Its a US protectorate in everything but name.
however, heres an idea for China. Instead of continueing to embrace the ideals of “communism” which China is in reality not really following. China is DE FACTO capitalistic now if not in name in FACT. sO instead of China continueing to be under the govt of the CCP. Why not let Taiwan run the show IN CHINA???
China has taken advantage of TAiwans money and know how to build its country. So why not embrace San Min Chu Yee?? The tenants of the ROC. Why not in fact say that ol Chiang had a better program going on after the cold war??
Why not in fact compare TAiwan variety shows on TV with those in China to see the fundamental difference between a “free” society and one thats greatly autocratic. Would you not like to see a democratic and “free China” ??
Why not build a China that is NOT hegemonistic ? Why not build a China that is at the forefront of human rights? Why not build a country that is like the USA, by the people, for the people, of the people? wHY not buiild a better life for its people? Why not look to TAiwan for inspiration and invite TAiwans leaders to take part in the running of China??
Why hold to spending a great portion of your hard earned on military hardware and threats to world peace. Why not instead hold to better ideals ? Why not be a world policeman like the USA and commit much of your resources to fight world evil and domination by despots??
why not? Why should China remain “communist” ? Why dont the newly enriched young chinese overthrow the old despots in power hiding under the banner of communism and having to “fight taiwan” as a rallying point to hold onto power?? Why not kick out your old autocratic nonsense (like taiwan has ) and build a new government commited to a nation where its people can live a better life under more personal freedom.
TAiwan is about more personal freedom, its about getting what you work for, its about having the freedom to choose what you want to do for work, where you want to work, etc. It is by no means perfect. NO that is is not. But it is on the right track in many ways.
Western countries (and TAiwan and Japan and Singapore basically subscribe to the western countries philosophy) entitle its people to a better life for most, to greater personal freedom. Why doesnt China follow in this path? RAther then the path of communism. Of which the IDEAL really isnt bad, but we have shown that it doesnt work. If China stuck to its communistic ideals, it would still be like CUBA. To the credit of its leaders, its thinking outside of the box now. And has been for a decade or more !!!
Perhaps the old guard in China really does understand on a personal level that China IS changing and has to continue to change. And perhaps they are grooming a new leadership that will be modern and 21st century.
China has to change. China could be like tAiwan (including all the fights in teh legislature??) and be the better for it overall