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That’s correct. I cannot differentiate between a Pilsner and a lager. A Pilsner is a type of lager. How could I possibly differentiate between a Pilsner and a lager?
This isn’t a technical matter.[/quote]
You sure you got his word emphasis right there TM? Sounds like you interpreted djk’s statement as a criticism of your beer knowledge (“I guess you can’t differentiate between a pilser and a lager” – i.e. someone else with a more discerning taste in beers could do exactly that), whereas I read djk’s statement as an agreement with you (“I guess you can’t differentiate between a pilsner and a lager” – i.e. “Yeah, okay, I see your point there. Distinguishing between a pilsner and a lager is like asking someone to distinguish between ‘Merlot’ and ‘red wine’”).
That’s how I read it anyway. 
EDIT: Oops – looks like I was wrong, and that djk is indeed confused. Funny that he happened to pick the wine example as well. Merlot vs. red wine is the closer analogy though, djk, not Merlot vs. Cabernet[/quote]
Good point but oh well I drank too much rum so that doesn’t even apply to this discussion. Something that would be fun would be for me and Tigerman to do a blindfold taste test of a variety of beers and see who comes out with the most accuracey. Of course we would have to drink at least 15 different styles to have a good time.
No. I’m explaining to you that a Pilsner is a type of lager and thus cannot be distinguished from a lager.
Which beer? Taiwan Beer?
There is no such thing as a “straight” lager. A lager is a general term for bottom fermented beers. There are several different types of lagers, of which Pilsner is one.
Fine with me.
Taste is ultimately subjective… but, there are some objective standards of taste for each style of beer. You can read about them on the Internet and do some practical experimentation in the pub. Just note that lagers are beers brewed with bottom fermenting yeast strains at colder fermentation temperatures than ales. This cooler fermentation inhibits the natural production of esters and other byproducts and this results in what many people describe as a “crisper” tasting beer, when contrasted with ales.
Its not a negative criticism. No need to get all pissy about it. I’m just trying to keep the liquor (that’s the brewer’s word for water used in the brewing process) from getting further muddied.
And I know mine. Perhaps we don’t drink the same stuff?
Oh.
I can’t see anything there… Must not be very large.
Haha!
[quote=“irishstu”]That family tree was incomplete. Don’t worry, I’ve fixed it now.
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Nice
No. I’m explaining to you that a Pilsner is a type of lager and thus cannot be distinguished from a lager.
Which beer? Taiwan Beer?
There is no such thing as a “straight” lager. A lager is a general term for bottom fermented beers. There are several different types of lagers, of which Pilsner is one.
Fine with me.
Taste is ultimately subjective… but, there are some objective standards of taste for each style of beer. You can read about them on the Internet and do some practical experimentation in the pub. Just note that lagers are beers brewed with bottom fermenting yeast strains at colder fermentation temperatures than ales. This cooler fermentation inhibits the natural production of esters and other byproducts and this results in what many people describe as a “crisper” tasting beer, when contrasted with ales.
Its not a negative criticism. No need to get all pissy about it. I’m just trying to keep the liquor (that’s the brewer’s word for water used in the brewing process) from getting further muddied.
And I know mine. Perhaps we don’t drink the same stuff?
Oh.
I can’t see anything there… Must not be very large.
Haha![/quote]
Now you understand my frustration lol
Not a bad plan. If you guys do have that context be sure to let me know if there are any extra places available (I’d be a spectator, not a contestant) 
I like the sound of THAT!
Well, I can’t really empathize… but, I guess I can sympathize.
Haha!
Peace
I guess we may be beating the same dead horse.
So is TAIWAN BEER the MOST POPULAR BEER IN TAIWAN?
Yes, with almost 80% market share.
I saw one such one that was flavored with, as best as i could translate from the ingredients, algae. i decided against trying it
A few years ago, I was in Tibet with an American friend, and Pabst Blue Ribbon (brewed in China) was the best beer we could find in Lhasa. I think the only other choice was Lhasa beer (or something like that) which didn’t have much going for it. My American friend couldn’t believe he was willingly drinking Pabst BR and that it was the best beer available.
Blame the Germans. They are the ones who invented Taiwan Beer. I donno, I like Taiwan Beer. After drinking quite a few bottles myself (and yes even on the rocks ala south Taiwan style) I’ve acquired a taste for it. Cant get any here in SAn Francisco and I miss it !!
A few years ago, I was in Tibet with an American friend, and Pabst Blue Ribbon (brewed in China) was the best beer we could find in Lhasa. I think the only other choice was Lhasa beer (or something like that) which didn’t have much going for it. My American friend couldn’t believe he was willingly drinking Pabst BR and that it was the best beer available.[/quote]
Sucks but haha drink what the locals give ya its ok. My alcoholic uncle used to down a 30 pack of PBR everyday. Nice guy and we used to hunt with hiem too. But ya got to have standards which I am guessing most don’t especially sandman(crabs, termites, unsatisfied womens, etc.) don’t let him tell you different he is so taiwanese.
A few years ago, I was in Tibet with an American friend, and Pabst Blue Ribbon (brewed in China) was the best beer we could find in Lhasa. I think the only other choice was Lhasa beer (or something like that) which didn’t have much going for it. My American friend couldn’t believe he was willingly drinking Pabst BR and that it was the best beer available.[/quote]
Sucks but haha drink what the locals give ya its ok. My alcoholic uncle used to down a 30 pack of PBR everyday. Nice guy and we used to hunt with hiem too. But ya got to have standards which I am guessing most don’t especially sandman(crabs, termites, unsatisfied womens, etc.) don’t let him tell you different he is so taiwanese.[/quote]
its called trolling
No. Gotta read the wiki, tommy.
"Taiwan Beer (formerly Takasago Beer) has its origins in the beer first brewed in 1922 by Takasago Brewery Company when Taiwan was under Japanese rule. "
No. Gotta read the wiki, tommy.
"Taiwan Beer (formerly Takasago Beer) has its origins in the beer first brewed in 1922 by Takasago Brewery Company when Taiwan was under Japanese rule. "[/quote]
Shoot and all this time I thought I was downing a German lager, much like what the Germans did with Tsingtao in China.
Dunno…I tend to drink what the locals drink if only for the variety.
Taiwan Beer seems to me to have a taste that goes well with Chinese/Taiwanese food, especially seafood. Possibly that is just association after all those years. I’ll even get it in the carrefour here in China. Beer should be matched to what your eating - IPA with a good curry? Strong Ale with a ploughman’s lunch…etc…
The consistency for Taiwan Beer has gotten much better over the years - it used to be kind of a crap shoot in that you’d on occasion get some skunked bottles that had been left out in the sun.
Which Tsingtao are you drinking? The export stuff is much different than the local stubbies or the big bottle 2% stuff.
I chose my house in Shanghai so that I have a HB next door. It’s weissbrau, dunkle or lager, brewed on premises. Order your lager to drink while you’re waiting for your weissbrau.
Thanks kindly for the beer family tree…it’s increased my beer knowledge by 200%.
Well the only Tsingtao we get in the USA is the export stuff. I heard its not as good?
I saw one such one that was flavored with, as best as i could translate from the ingredients, algae. I decided against trying it[/quote]
I drank that one, not bad, disappeared off the shelves after a few months though.