In 2003 people were discussing this ( When's the right time to leave Taiwan? ), and I’m curious 18 years later do the reasons changed or are still the same? I’m in my late twenties, I’ve been here for over 4 years, got my masters, my Chinese is decent and it’s 50/50 for me. There are pros (food, cult…

It’s like McDonald’s. Used to be a kids job and now it’s all adults working there and they still can’t make ends meet. Time to get out of that segment of the field, I’d say, if one is over educated or money oriented that is.

This is happening all over the world. What can we do about that? It is looking like a middle class lifestyle is out of reach of the vast majority, even despite all that hard work. And we’ve been told over and over again that hard work has its rewards. It looks wrong now.

[image] Taiwan_Luthiers: And we’ve been told over and over again that hard work has its rewards. It looks wrong now. Worked fine for me and nearly everyone I know.

That’s a good company to work for in Taiwan. Unfortunately most aren’t like that.

A starter job back in 2000 for an Englisb teacher paid about 600 ntd/hr. But I knew Canadian couples making up to 900nt/hr each with full time hours back then. Talk about rich kids on the block. They were going home and putting big deposits on houses back there. They are atill advertising jobs tod…

I have a whole thread for this! [image] The Golden Age of ESL has Ended Open Forum There was a time when Japan and Taiwan paid very well for English teachers, with Korea and China taking over as economies shifted. In the middle east I worked with guys who star…

With lower birth rate and china making the world a multipolar place, the demand for learning English may be on the decline. If anything westerners may need to learn Chinese in school as business with china gets bigger and bigger. This could mean a demand for Chinese teachers, with the west begrudgi…

There’s not a whole lot of love for Chinese in the West these days. Asia or Africa, you may be right.

[image] Taiwan_Luthiers: the demand for learning English may be on the decline. If anything westerners may need to learn Chinese in school as business with china gets bigger and bigger. That’s laughable. Kids study Chinese in my high school. They say nee- how!

[image] Brianjones: Asia or Africa, you may be right. I hope I’m wrong… But guess what language most of Asia speaks, and guess what country is pouring investments (or debt traps) into Africa. I’m definitely seeing more foreigners in Taiwan taking classes at NTNU for sure…

When is the right time to leave

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TT June 5, 2023, 11:56am 1193

I have a whole thread for this!