Where you get the most bang for your $

7-Eleven sells beer and spirits. What are you complaining about?

7-Eleven sells beer and spirits. What are you complaining about?[/quote]

That there is the nub. You are either willing to pay for quality - and outstanding quality at a very reasonable price, it has to be said. or you slurp your 7-11 beers and munch your cold sandwhiches and enjoy them. It’s a business, not a charity, and on any measure you care to take, Carnegies offers outstanding value for very professional and international class service and quality of its product.

Carnegies brought many firsts to Taiwan. It was a very big gamble by a group of investors that remain very focussed on the quality and reputation of the product.

There are real examples of high prices and poor quality in Taiwan, but not at Carnegies. And by the way, these other joints are failing.

Carnegies certainly offers bang for buck.

HG

7-Eleven sells beer and spirits. What are you complaining about?[/quote]

That there is the nub. You are either willing to pay for quality - and outstanding quality at a very reasonable price, it has to be said. or you slurp your 7-11 beers and munch your cold sandwhiches and enjoy them. It’s a business, not a charity, and on any measure you care to take, Carnegies offers outstanding value for very professional and international class service and quality of its product.

Carnegies brought many firsts to Taiwan. It was a very big gamble by a group of investors that remain very focussed on the quality and reputation of the product.

There are real examples of high prices and poor quality in Taiwan, but not at Carnegies. And by the way, these other joints are failing.

Carnegies certainly offers bang for buck.

HG[/quote]

Nicely put. Thanks for that. HG is right in touching upon ‘other joints’ and their pricing. NT$100 seems good now but where will the budget people go when six months from now consistent overheads and falling revenues result in closure? Our regulars and members don’t seem to have a problem with them and after all (I have said this before) we cater to those who come here not those that don’t. If I slashed prices in accordance with the wishes of a tiny minority (99.9% of whom don’t frequent this establishment), then there would be firstly an erosion in quality of food, drinks and service (no doubt eliciting complaints from the same I-want-my-cake-and-eat-it crowd) followed by secondly, job losses, bill payment defaults and closure. That would affect many people, not least our employees and customers.

Whilst I welcome constructive criticism, price-whingers get short shrift as they are invariably people we never see or cater to.

HG: I’ll withdraw the ‘safari’ pictures from Ebay now.

Bob

NO!!! It’s sad, I agree, but I have so little evidence of my days as a hunter . . .

HG

Just wondering – how does Mary Jane’s pizza compare to Citizen Cain’s (if you’ve ever tried CC’s)? I’ve also never tried Alleycat’s, and I wonder if I should even bother since I’m wary of places foreigners rave about… Other pple here have mentioned that lately MJ’s pizza skimps on toppings and doesnt really fill you up…

Life’s rich pageant!

Do 'em all and make your own mind up. It simply cannot break the bank.

HG

Exactly! It’s not really the end of the world if you have a shite dinner, is it?

(Me, I’m just grateful I never have to eat my mother’s beef stew again.)

Gee…6 pages and no one had defined ‘bang’ yet, noor even ‘buck’.

What exactly whose buck are we banging here? :saywhat:

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3. Mary Jane Pizza
[Mary Jane Pizza
maryjanepizza.com/

My personal favorite pizza place in Taipei and for others who are used to American style thin crust pizza. The lunch special consisting of soup/salad, pepperoni/vegetable pizza and ice tea had me coming back every week. It didn’t hurt that it was only NT$180. The owner is friendly and everyone speaks English.
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Just wondering – how does Mary Jane’s pizza compare to Citizen Cain’s (if you’ve ever tried CC’s)? I’ve also never tried Alleycat’s, and I wonder if I should even bother since I’m wary of places foreigners rave about… Other pple here have mentioned that lately MJ’s pizza skimps on toppings and doesnt really fill you up…[/quote]
I don’t know how to answer your question, being as I’m a foreigner, as are most of the other posters here.

“Where should I go for a pizza? I don’t trust you.”

I rave about Alleycat’s, so I guess you better not go there. Why not try Pizza Hut or Dominoes? I hate those ones.

[quote=“sandman”][quote=“dubberishx”][quote=“snafu”]
3. Mary Jane Pizza
[Mary Jane Pizza
maryjanepizza.com/

My personal favorite pizza place in Taipei and for others who are used to American style thin crust pizza. The lunch special consisting of soup/salad, pepperoni/vegetable pizza and ice tea had me coming back every week. It didn’t hurt that it was only NT$180. The owner is friendly and everyone speaks English.
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Just wondering – how does Mary Jane’s pizza compare to Citizen Cain’s (if you’ve ever tried CC’s)? I’ve also never tried Alleycat’s, and I wonder if I should even bother since I’m wary of places foreigners rave about… Other pple here have mentioned that lately MJ’s pizza skimps on toppings and doesnt really fill you up…[/quote]
I don’t know how to answer your question, being as I’m a foreigner, as are most of the other posters here.

“Where should I go for a pizza? I don’t trust you.”

I rave about Alleycat’s, so I guess you better not go there. Why not try Pizza Hut or Dominoes? I hate those ones.[/quote]

ok… WTF. i didn’t mean to make you (or anyone else) defensive. I’m a foreigner too and I rave about The Diner constantly and I think it wholeheartedly deserves its popularity among locals and foreigners alike. However, IN MY VIEW there are a bunch of other places that need not be named (since you named a few of them already; well… I’ll also throw in Din Tai Feng) that foreigners gravitate to, but that I don’t think are awesome like, at all. I was hoping in a 1-on-1 question type deal, I would get a more discerning/frank answer. OK? you yourself briefly vent about “overrated” places in your original post.

my question, simplified, is: How does Mary Jane’s pizza compare to Citizen Cain’s, if you have tried it? I would appreciate your feedback.

and for the record, I love Pizza Hut’s stuffed crust supreme topping pizza. Yum.

Was having a pissed off day yesterday. Sorry. As for your question, I’ve only had each one once I think. I much preferred Cain’s to MJs, which is not my preferred style – crust too thin, too crisp, not enough topping, too bland for my taste. Low price, sure, but not really value for money in my book. That’s why I only went once.
Cain’s I would go back for, except they’re all Canadians in there. Kidding! Kidding! Cain’s isn’t really in my neck of the woods, which is why I don’t often go there.

If I had to name just one place only I would choose ‘the diner’. Went again for dinner recently and the food was excellent, big portions (had burgers only) at very reasonable prices. The apple pie (ala mode) is just to die for. Service is good, too.

That being said I also happily eat at Carnegie’s, JB’s, Alleycats or ‘the italian job’ at any time. A proper meal will run more expensive than at ‘the diner’ but with the choices on offer and considering the size of the servings it’s IMHO worth it.

(I mean to say that my favorite meals there are not burgers and that the ingredients (?) of such meals are probably more expensive than that of a burger, so the prizing is still reasonable).

Anyone been having trouble getting into the Diner recently? I’ve practically given up on it because of the crowd issue. Shame, because I’ve never had a bad item in there.

Last week I called them and they told me they no longer take reservations on the weekends.
You just have to go there and take your chance.

Yeah, we were on our way there the other Saturday and ran into Tigeradolescent who was returning home with a Diner carryout after a 45-minute wait. We went to Sababa instead.

Bloody Forumosa ruined it. Instead, I believe we need to start saying it really is shit there instead.

Went on a weekday and it was crowded, so left my phone number and walked around the block. By the time we were back they had a table ready (my phone rang just when I stood at the front door again), may have taken 15-20 minutes but it was worth the wait.

Yunnan restaurant in Muzha near the uni on Zhinan Rd just before the police station. Consistenly good food for years now. Great fried chicken, noodle dishes, etc. Two people can really fill up for a few hundred. Chris has been here many times with me and I know he will concur.

I’ll concur if its the one I used to take Jojo to when we first started courting all those years ago. Her student dorm was almost next door to that place, if its the same one. Ah, memories!

I would add Butter, (see this thread [Butter - breakfast and lunch cafe a new entry to the Taipei eateries scene since this thread was started.

I had brunch there again last weekend. A three-egg omelette that comes with coffee, juice, bacon, hash browns and toast (am I forgetting anything?) all for about NT$130 (or maybe $160, I forget because there were three breakfast specials and I mixed and matched adding some sausage for a small extra charge.) Anyway the food was declicious, nice fluffy omelette, good western-style bacon and sausage and they even have multigrain toast now.

Their coffee is better than starbucks, and even better, the atmosphere is great for brunch; nice and relaxing, a description you wouldn’t necessarily expect for a place in this thread. I was stuffed and satiated when I left. Go now before this place becomes the new popular spot and you don’t have to wait for tables.