Who Here Has Mapped Out Their Financial Future Either On Their Own Or With Help From A Pro?

That 22 months is about not drinking alcohol. :beer:

But yeah sure. Some threads are longer than others and take more time to completely ameliorate. The difference is all mental. I donā€™t think about what I wanna do, I just do it.

Yeah Iā€™m not so sure about the traveling. Weā€™ve traveled. Thereā€™s not a whole lot we want to see and I donā€™t have bucket lists of places to go. Maybe two or threeā€”. Portugal, northern Italy and we like Japanā€” Iā€™d like to see the closer Japanese islands.

I have friends, and things to do in NY; my wife has friends and family here. The days of wanting to hit every MLB ball park are over Iā€™d say.

I read this back in the day when I was learning up. Skip this - Rich dad poor dad is presented as factual but is a work of fiction, and doesnā€™t provide much useful info, and some downright shitty, shitty info.(utilize insider trading and contract fraud! Uh, no thanks bud).

Dave Ramsey is ok for people struggling with the basics, but not very useful beyond that (to be fair, thatā€™s his audience). Also has some sporty advice that might (is likely to) leave you in a bad spot (most notoriously his 8% withdrawal rule.of thumb vs the more typical 4% - run that through firecalc and see where you end up (spoiler - you run out of money more often than not over 30 yr periods)).

Me, Iā€™d stick with Peter Lynch to start.

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I couldnā€™t agree more.

Fucking charlatan.

Iā€™d go with decide what kind of investments youā€™re interested in and buy a $100-200 per year newsletter subscription.

I have used Bret Owenā€™s for years. I like dividends. I used to have The Motley Foolā€™s back in the day.

You can learn a lot by digging into what they recommend or you can do what they suggest and not think too much about it (which is where I am with Owenā€™sā€” he says buy, I buy. He says sellā€” I usually sellā€” unless he says itā€™s still
Good but not what the newsletter is after, for example, hidden yields).

Of course, over the years, read your Buffet, Lynch, Jim Rogers et al, and by all means read RDPD, and youā€™ll see whoā€™s talking shit.

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Yes. But if youā€™re retired, you most likely have U$100,000 in assets (aggregate of cash, stocks, bonds, etc.) in your brokerage account.
So, CD is not worth it, just get your IRAs, 401ks, cash, stocks, etc. in IBKR or Fidelity and unused cash gets that nice interest rate. Donā€™t have to deal with CDs.

It depends. I have a lot of cash outside of my IRAs. Mei ban fa. I cannot put any more in. Unless I live and work in the US.

My school 401k was switched to my Traditional IRA and I can only send 8k per year of that into my Roth.

Thereā€™s no one way.

I look at my CD money as being there for the taking when real estate drops significantly or thereā€™s a massive correction in the stock market.

Or when I wanna buy a condo in the ADK.

Oh and :joy:

This.

That being said cash-flow quadrant is better and yes I agree kiyosaki has a disdain for employees which can be felt in his writing.

This, what? Itā€™s shit, even for those learning up. Itā€™s craptaculous fiction with bad financial advice. The only good advice is kind of a general be financially literate, but the book doesnā€™t actually help with that.

You sound hurt.

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No, I just donā€™t want people to waste money on bad advice.

And you should not want to pass along bad advice.

Yep, now even more before than when he was just peddling bad advice fiction as autobiographical. Heā€™s on the seminars to sell you more seminars circuit, get rich no money down real estate circuit, pimping gold grift circuit, etc, etc.

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Dudeā€” stop. We try and save that personal shit for the politics forums.

Didnā€™t he just say itā€™s impossible for him to ever pay back what he owes and heā€™s fine with that. Fuck that guy.

No offense but thatā€™s your opinion of the material.

Fact is that the book sold millions upon millions of copies around the world and has been the start of many people who have reached a level of financial freedomā€¦myself included.

Yes it is not all useful and kiyosaki himself is controversial- but the book still stands as a good introduction to financial freedom and how to set yourself up to be rich.

You sound emotional. The reaction to the book is not normal - hence ā€œyou sound hurtā€ and thatā€™s putting it politely.

Just reread the thread. Anyway we disgress

No, objectively, thereā€™s seriously lousy advice in there, like get non public info from your rich friends for stock trades. Thatā€™s insider trading. Not great.

That is not a measure of quality.

Cool - what did you take away from that book (specifically) that was helpful?

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Oh?

That book is a heap of shit. Here, do risky shit. YOLO!

Go ahead. I read them years ago. Theyā€™re trash. Not emotional at all. I donā€™t care about anyoneā€™s finances save my own.

Just for fun though, how specifically has his advice helped you? I mean, they helped me not waste money on flashy get rich quick with lies books.

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Business pensions stock market and CDā€™s not so much real estate.

I am not going to close my business as I get older. Itā€™s running along niceley with not a lot of input required

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If it goes down to 1million or 500k usd per annum its more than enough for most ppl