# Who is Christian? **URL:** \ **Category:** Religion & Spirituality\ **Created:** [November 5, 2018, 8:29am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/who-is-christian/174139 "2018-11-05T08:29:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Andrew0409](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/andrew0409/32/69821_2.png) [@Andrew0409](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Andrew0409)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 8:29am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/who-is-christian/174139/1 "2018-11-05T08:29:33Z")
> [@Demographics on Forumosa: religion](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/demographics-on-forumosa-religion/174102/26): > > Huh. Ipso facto (?) I must be a Mormon. That’s mildly interesting. Islam is literally closer to Christian theology than Mormonism. As is Judaism We all agree there is one god, and no other. All very strictly monotheistic. Mormons believe in many gods. Rejects the trinity. No Christians denomination, Protestant or Catholic recognizes them as Christians that I know of. And no other accepts their ideas of God. Their prophet, holy book. Or that Jesus came back to North America and eden is in Missouri. The list goes on. Only Mormons claim they are Christians and everyone else is an apostate and wrong. Christianity is strictly monotheistic. Its completely incompatible to polytheism. They are mutually exclusive ---
**Author:** ![Rocket](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/rocket/32/160144_2.png) [@Rocket](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Rocket)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 8:31am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/who-is-christian/174139/2 "2018-11-05T08:31:50Z")
> [@Demographics on Forumosa: religion](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/demographics-on-forumosa-religion/174102/25): > > > [@Demographics on Forumosa: religion](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/demographics-on-forumosa-religion/174102/24): > > > > Technically if you believe in Jesus the Christ as your lord and savior then you is a Christian (much though it pains me to admit it in the case of the Mormons). > > Technically Mormons believe that they are the rightful Christians and everyone else is an apostate. > > They reject the trinity and are basically polytheistic with god the father, son and Holy Spirit as separate gods out of many other gods. Not Christians. Christianity is strictly monotheistic. It’s pretty clear in the Bible that there is no other god but the Abrahamic god. > > Their book and new prophet and revelation that supersede the Bible that no other church accepts. > > Not to mention they think the garden of eden is in Missouri…and Jesus came back to North America. > > Islam is closer to Christianity than Mormonism. BS, there are loads of other Christian variants who don’t accept the Trinity (like the [Brethren](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christadelphians)) ---
**Author:** ![tando](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/6f9a4e/32.png) [@tando](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/tando)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 8:37am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/who-is-christian/174139/3 "2018-11-05T08:37:52Z")
Wikipedia says “Modern nontrinitarian groups or [denominations](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_denomination) include [Christadelphians](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christadelphians), [Christian Scientists](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Science), [The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Church_of_Jesus_Christ_of_Latter-day_Saints), [Dawn Bible Students](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawn_Bible_Students), [Friends General Conference](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friends_General_Conference), [Iglesia ni Cristo](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iglesia_ni_Cristo), [Jehovah’s Witnesses](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jehovah%27s_Witnesses), [Living Church of God](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Living_Church_of_God), [Oneness Pentecostals](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oneness_Pentecostalism), the [Seventh Day Church of God](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_God_(Seventh_Day)), [Unitarian Universalist Christians](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unitarian_Universalist_Christian_Fellowship), [United Church of God](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Church_of_God), [The Shepherd’s Chapel](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shepherd%27s_Chapel) and [Spiritism](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiritism).” ---
**Author:** ![Andrew0409](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/andrew0409/32/69821_2.png) [@Andrew0409](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Andrew0409)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 8:40am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/who-is-christian/174139/4 "2018-11-05T08:40:04Z")
They aren’t Christians either. Like other **Nontrinitarianism** such as Jehovah’s Witness. Trinity is a fundamental doctrine of Christianity since the council of Nicaea. Mormons are also polytheistic. Not compatible to Christian theology. ---
**Author:** ![Andrew0409](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/andrew0409/32/69821_2.png) [@Andrew0409](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Andrew0409)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 8:44am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/who-is-christian/174139/5 "2018-11-05T08:44:58Z")
And they are all shunned by other Christian theologians. ---
**Author:** ![tempogain](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/tempogain/32/264650_2.png) [@tempogain](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/tempogain)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 8:47am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/who-is-christian/174139/6 "2018-11-05T08:47:10Z")
> [@Demographics on Forumosa: religion](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/demographics-on-forumosa-religion/174102/30): > > They aren’t Christians either. Because of the trinity? That’s pretty ridiculous to my ears. Jesus never said anything about it. That all came much later. ---
**Author:** ![Brianjones](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/eada6e/32.png) [@Brianjones](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Brianjones)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 8:48am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/who-is-christian/174139/7 "2018-11-05T08:48:31Z")
Protestants in Taiwan also say that Catholics aren’t Christian. This has always confounded me! Perhaps it’s the way it’s expressed in Chinese. ---
**Author:** ![Rocket](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/rocket/32/160144_2.png) [@Rocket](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Rocket)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 8:48am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/who-is-christian/174139/8 "2018-11-05T08:48:57Z")
> [@Demographics on Forumosa: religion](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/demographics-on-forumosa-religion/174102/31): > > And they are all **shunned** by other Christian theologians. What a load of crap. :roll: ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Milker](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/dr_milker/32/181996_2.png) [@Dr\_Milker](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Dr_Milker)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 8:50am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/who-is-christian/174139/9 "2018-11-05T08:50:11Z")
It’s nice seeing you guys have an argument that isn’t about politics for a change. 😃 Edit: Oops, spoke too soon. ---
**Author:** ![Brianjones](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/eada6e/32.png) [@Brianjones](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Brianjones)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 8:50am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/who-is-christian/174139/10 "2018-11-05T08:50:17Z")
Historically they’ve been thought of as a cult in many countries but they have received more widespread acceptance over the last few decades. Mitt Romney is a Mormon and a lot saner than that chap in charge right now. ---
**Author:** ![dan2006](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/ea666f/32.png) [@dan2006](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/dan2006)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 8:55am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/who-is-christian/174139/11 "2018-11-05T08:55:44Z")
I’d say, show me the Trinity as fact in the Bible and then a discussion can be had. Protip. Trinity is not in the Bible ---
**Author:** ![Andrew0409](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/andrew0409/32/69821_2.png) [@Andrew0409](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Andrew0409)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 8:58am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/who-is-christian/174139/12 "2018-11-05T08:58:22Z")
# John 10:30-33 New King James Version (NKJV) 30 I and _My_ Father are one.” **Isaiah 45:5-12** **5** I am God, the only God there is. Besides me there are no real gods. I’m the one who armed you for this work, though you don’t even know me, **6** So that everyone, from east to west, will know that I have no god-rivals. I am God, the only God there is. **7** I form light and create darkness, I make harmonies and create discords. I, God, do all these things. Still no answers on how Mormons believing in separate Gods, and infinite amount og Gods in a polytheistic view…is compatible with monotheistic theology shared by Islam, Judaism and Christianity. I hope we arent reading the Pagan’s conspiring with egyptians and Osirus to make the trinity and that Jesus is not actually god according to some lost text of the bible in the vatican secret archives ---
**Author:** ![Dawud](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Dawud](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Dawud)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 9:06am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/who-is-christian/174139/13 "2018-11-05T09:06:46Z")
Then they would be clicking “Christian,” wouldn’t they? ---
**Author:** ![tando](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/6f9a4e/32.png) [@tando](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/tando)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 9:09am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/who-is-christian/174139/14 "2018-11-05T09:09:08Z")
> [@Demographics on Forumosa: religion](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/demographics-on-forumosa-religion/174102/38): > > Still no answers on how Mormons believing in separate Gods, and infinite amount og Gods in a polytheistic view…is compatible with monotheistic theology shared by Islam, Judaism and Christianity. for me, this page is more than enough. > **[Mormonism and Nicene Christianity](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormonism_and_Christianity)** > > Mormonism and Nicene Christianity (often called mainstream Christianity) have a complex theological, historical, and sociological relationship. Mormons express their doctrines using biblical terminology. They have similar views about the nature of Jesus Christ's atonement, bodily resurrection, and Second Coming as mainstream Christians. Nevertheless, most Mormons do not accept the doctrine of the Trinity as codified in the Nicene Creed of 325 and the Nicene-Constantinopolitan Creed of 381. Focus... ---
**Author:** ![tempogain](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/tempogain/32/264650_2.png) [@tempogain](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/tempogain)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 9:11am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/who-is-christian/174139/15 "2018-11-05T09:11:35Z")
> [@Demographics on Forumosa: religion](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/demographics-on-forumosa-religion/174102/38): > > I hope we arent reading the Pagan’s conspiring with egyptians and Osirus to make the trinity and that Jesus is not actually god according to some lost text of the bible in the vatican secret archives Lol. Come on now. Even your first quote doesn’t mean there is a trinity. And Christians toss huge chunks of the OT whenever it suits them. Some Christians don’t even believe that Jesus is God at all. ---
**Author:** ![tempogain](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/tempogain/32/264650_2.png) [@tempogain](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/tempogain)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 9:14am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/who-is-christian/174139/16 "2018-11-05T09:14:00Z")
> [@Demographics on Forumosa: religion](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/demographics-on-forumosa-religion/174102/40): > > for me, this page is more than enough. For me, they claim to believe in Christ, they’re Christians. If I have to figure out every competing claim among the thousands of them and parse them for accuracy I won’t have time to do anything else. When various claimed Christians can reach some kind of consensus, let us know. I won’t be waiting up though ---
**Author:** ![Dawud](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Dawud](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Dawud)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 9:14am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/who-is-christian/174139/17 "2018-11-05T09:14:06Z")
I said “You are gods…” (Psalm 82 Masoretic, = 81 LXX) And then there are all the weird plurals like “Elohim”… ---
**Author:** ![Andrew0409](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/andrew0409/32/69821_2.png) [@Andrew0409](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Andrew0409)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 9:16am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/who-is-christian/174139/18 "2018-11-05T09:16:49Z")
> [@Demographics on Forumosa: religion](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/demographics-on-forumosa-religion/174102/43): > > said “You are gods…” (Psalm 82 Did you read the context? Referring to people with authority like judges. ---
**Author:** ![Andrew0409](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/andrew0409/32/69821_2.png) [@Andrew0409](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Andrew0409)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 9:20am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/who-is-christian/174139/19 "2018-11-05T09:20:48Z")
At one point, you can either classify them as Christians because mormon claim to be even when protestants and catholics all deny it or actually come to understand the differences for theological purposes. Is Taiwan part of China? ---
**Author:** ![Hanna](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/hanna/32/24014_2.png) [@Hanna](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Hanna)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 9:21am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/who-is-christian/174139/20 "2018-11-05T09:21:59Z")
I’m pretty sure the baseline for whether someone is Christian boils down to whether that person has been baptized and has faith in Jesus Christ. Some Christians of different denominations are naturally gonna think their way is the best and question the validity of other ways. The same could be said about religious people in general. I mean, if you talk to enough Protestants in the American Bible Belt, you’ll find some of them don’t even think Catholics count as proper Christians. [Next page](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/who-is-christian/174139.md?page=2)