# Who will be Kaoshiung's new Mayor?

**URL:** <https://tw.forumosa.com/t/who-will-be-kaoshiungs-new-mayor/192881>\
**Category:** Taiwan Politics\
**Tags:** kaohsiung\
**Created:** [June 7, 2020, 12:10am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/who-will-be-kaoshiungs-new-mayor/192881 "2020-06-07T00:10:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![afterspivak](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/ccd318/32.png) [@afterspivak](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/afterspivak)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2020, 11:18am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/who-will-be-kaoshiungs-new-mayor/192881/81 "2020-08-15T11:18:52Z")

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In short: Han is seemingly more disliked than Chen is liked. : D

Guy

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**Author:** ![Marco](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/marco/32/179744_2.png) [@Marco](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Marco)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2020, 12:02pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/who-will-be-kaoshiungs-new-mayor/192881/82 "2020-08-15T12:02:25Z")

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Turnout is really low. Its likely many people didnt see an urgency and didnt vote or were outside Kaohsiung and didn’t make the trek.

The results also suggest that many Kuomintang supporters didnt bother to vote as well. It’s likely that the ‘surety’ of the election just kept people home.

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**Author:** ![schwarzwald](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@schwarzwald](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/schwarzwald)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2020, 12:18pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/who-will-be-kaoshiungs-new-mayor/192881/83 "2020-08-15T12:18:09Z")

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Chen got fewer votes this time than in 2018 when he lost to Han.

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**Author:** ![afterspivak](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/ccd318/32.png) [@afterspivak](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/afterspivak)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2020, 12:22pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/who-will-be-kaoshiungs-new-mayor/192881/84 "2020-08-15T12:22:04Z")

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One assumes then that:

a) turnout at by-elections will be lower than at a regular election; and

b) KMT supporters are (variously) demoralized, angry, or disgusted. It didn’t help that the party decided to field a weak candidate who was not properly vetted (see: Lee’s plagiarism scandal).

Guy

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**Author:** ![DrewC](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/drewc/32/224499_2.png) [@DrewC](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/DrewC)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2020, 12:25pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/who-will-be-kaoshiungs-new-mayor/192881/85 "2020-08-15T12:25:02Z")

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Chen is a thoroughly boring and uncharismatic candidate. But he’s predictable and “safe”, and after Han most people would prefer a milquetoast empty suit than a crazy loose cannon.

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**Author:** ![Icon](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/icon/32/189245_2.png) [@Icon](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Icon)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2020, 2:29pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/who-will-be-kaoshiungs-new-mayor/192881/86 "2020-08-15T14:29:46Z")

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c) not able to “return” to Kaohsiung to vote due to being abroad and COVID travel restrictions. They can come but at a higher cost and the party is not picking up the tab this time.

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**Author:** ![Pubu](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/p/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Pubu](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Pubu)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2020, 6:40pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/who-will-be-kaoshiungs-new-mayor/192881/87 "2020-08-15T18:40:54Z")

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Tsai Ying Wen is “boring” but she does a pretty good job of running the country. I’ll take boring and smart over a reality TV host.

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**Author:** ![DrewC](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/drewc/32/224499_2.png) [@DrewC](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/DrewC)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2020, 1:10am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/who-will-be-kaoshiungs-new-mayor/192881/88 "2020-08-16T01:10:38Z")

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Yep. This applies to the US as well for me.

I do think Tsai is a bit more dynamic and interesting than Chen though.

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**Author:** ![DrewC](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/drewc/32/224499_2.png) [@DrewC](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/DrewC)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2020, 1:15am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/who-will-be-kaoshiungs-new-mayor/192881/89 "2020-08-16T01:15:17Z")

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Probably empty talk, but I do like Chen’s priorities of giving us breathable air and better transportation.

_He outlined four priorities – upgrade the city’s industries, add new jobs, improve transportation infrastructure and ensure cleaner air._

> **[DPP's Chen Chi-mai wins Kaohsiung by-election by wide margin (update) - Focus...](https://focustaiwan.tw/politics/202008150014)**
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> Taipei, Aug. 15 (CNA) Former Vice Premier Chen Chi-mai (陳其邁) of the ruling Democratic Progressive Party (DPP) easily won a mayoral by-election in Kaohsiung on Saturday, helping the DPP achieve its goal of taking the city back from the opposition...

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**Author:** ![DKaoshuing](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/dkaoshuing/32/127142_2.png) [@DKaoshuing](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/DKaoshuing)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2020, 5:04am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/who-will-be-kaoshiungs-new-mayor/192881/90 "2020-08-16T05:04:22Z")

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> [@DrewC](#):
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> I think we already know the end result. 😉

Yes, so no need watch the TV. Went shopping found what I wanted, though not where I expected (Carefour-Dashun KHH which was packed with what seems with locals with no cares about the election).

 ![vegemite](https://forumosauploads-12829.kxcdn.com/original/3X/1/d/1dbee3d311261cbf9945e0187d3f9e035b54198c.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![afterspivak](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/ccd318/32.png) [@afterspivak](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/afterspivak)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 12:51pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/who-will-be-kaoshiungs-new-mayor/192881/91 "2020-08-18T12:51:35Z")

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The inimitable Frozen Garlic weighs in on the recent Kaohsiung by-election, and what might lie ahead:

> **[Kaohsiung mayoral by-election](https://frozengarlic.wordpress.com/2020/08/15/kaohsiung-mayoral-by-election/)**
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> Kaohsiung City held its by-election today, and the DPP won a smashing victory. Chen Chi-mai got 70.0% of the valid votes, leaving the KMT’s Jane Lee and TPP’s Wu Yi-cheng far behind, with 25.1% and…

Guy

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**Author:** ![DrewC](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/drewc/32/224499_2.png) [@DrewC](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/DrewC)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 1:35pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/who-will-be-kaoshiungs-new-mayor/192881/92 "2020-08-18T13:35:50Z")

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Great as always. He really has a terrific understanding of this island’s politics. Very thoughtful and insightful.

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**Author:** ![afterspivak](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/ccd318/32.png) [@afterspivak](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/afterspivak)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2020, 6:02am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/who-will-be-kaoshiungs-new-mayor/192881/93 "2020-08-20T06:02:19Z")

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It’s official: Jane Lee’s (李眉蓁) MA degree will be revoked following her thesis plagiarism scandal:

> **[Probe confirms plagiarism in Li's thesis; degree to be revoked - Focus Taiwan](https://focustaiwan.tw/society/202008190023)**
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> Kaohsiung, Aug. 19 (CNA) National Sun Yat-sen University (NSYSU) said Wednesday it will revoke the degree of Li Mei-jhen (李眉蓁), the Kuomintang (KMT) candidate in last Saturday's Kaohsiung mayoral by-election, as it has confirmed that her thesis was...

Guy

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**Author:** ![Belgian\_Pie](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/8dc957/32.png) [@Belgian\_Pie](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Belgian_Pie)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2020, 6:04am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/who-will-be-kaoshiungs-new-mayor/192881/94 "2020-08-20T06:04:17Z")

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Darn, losing the election and losing her degree!

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**Author:** ![CTaitung](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/ctaitung/32/100105_2.png) [@CTaitung](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/CTaitung)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2020, 6:05am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/who-will-be-kaoshiungs-new-mayor/192881/95 "2020-08-20T06:05:16Z")

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who was her academic advisor. we gotz tah gnow

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**Author:** ![afterspivak](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/ccd318/32.png) [@afterspivak](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/afterspivak)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2020, 6:10am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/who-will-be-kaoshiungs-new-mayor/192881/96 "2020-08-20T06:10:18Z")

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> [@Belgian\_Pie](#):
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> losing the election and losing her degree!

And her credibility and dignity.

The real loser here is the KMT for failing to do due diligence and continuing to put forward weak candidates.

Guy

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**Author:** ![hansioux](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/hansioux/32/253648_2.png) [@hansioux](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/hansioux)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2020, 6:39am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/who-will-be-kaoshiungs-new-mayor/192881/97 "2020-08-20T06:39:52Z")

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> [@CTaitung](#):
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> who was her academic advisor. we gotz tah gnow

Lin Dechang (林德昌), the head of NSYSU’s “China Studies” whatever that means. He was once a member of the KMT’s Central Committee.

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**Author:** ![CTaitung](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/ctaitung/32/100105_2.png) [@CTaitung](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/CTaitung)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2020, 6:40am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/who-will-be-kaoshiungs-new-mayor/192881/98 "2020-08-20T06:40:31Z")

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> [@hansioux](#):
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> > [@CTaitung](#):
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> > who was her academic advisor. we gotz tah gnow
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> Lin Dechang (林德昌), the head of NSYSU’s “China Studies” whatever that means. He was once a member of the KMT’s Central Committee.

the chase begins

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**Author:** ![afterspivak](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/ccd318/32.png) [@afterspivak](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/afterspivak)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2020, 6:49am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/who-will-be-kaoshiungs-new-mayor/192881/99 "2020-08-20T06:49:57Z")

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According to the Focus Taiwan piece linked above, Jane Lee’s thesis supervisor will be subjected to an INTERNAL investigation.

The thesis plagiarism investigation, by contrast, was conducted in part by EXTERNAL (i.e. non-NSYSU) specialists, with less incentive to cover things up.

Guy

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**Author:** ![afterspivak](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/ccd318/32.png) [@afterspivak](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/afterspivak)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2020, 2:45pm UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/who-will-be-kaoshiungs-new-mayor/192881/100 "2020-10-13T14:45:11Z")

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Former candidate for Kaohsiung mayor—and current city councilor—Jane Lee has had her MA degree officially revoked by NSYSU.

According to this report, she seems to think this process has been unfair to her:

[![](https://forumosauploads-12829.kxcdn.com/original/3X/a/a/aa856e13f79b5dd97fed3e9219c337b9d7c6106c.jpeg "中山大學撤銷學位 李眉蓁:不奢言會公平") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UU7qtECLosw)

The comments posted below that video are something else!

Guy

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