In NZ we had a naturalized Chinese citizen run for and win a seat in parliament. He was later revealed to be a former Chinese intelligence agent and was basically a mole. He resigned immediately and took the plane back to Beijing.
No no. We need to continue pushing a narrative that the one day you were born before you had any knowledge cemented your loyalty to the country.
Why would they be? They would have had to have changed household registration to China and stopped being an ROC national for that to happen.
Plenty of ROC nationals live in China who are Chinese patriots. They donât necessarily all change their household registration because they want to keep the Taiwanese passport to gain visa-free entry to more countries.
So when I lived in China I became a Chinese patriot because I kept my ROC Passport for visa free entry to other countries? Good to know.
Well, did you? And did you grow up in China? There are plenty of people who were born in Taiwan but raised in China who are Chinese patriots but never switched passports. A lot of my friends were, when I was growing up in Shanghai.
Your passport is irrelevant. There are plenty of Forumosans who are patriotic to Taiwan who never got a Taiwanese passport. Youâre the exception rather than the norm.
I was talking about Forumosans:
All ten of them? All these forumosans, they donât even make a rounding error.
Still doesnât make your statement true:
Why would you need to change your household registration to China to be a Chinese patriot?
Well does not matter when it comes to being able to run for office here. If born here and they hold ROC Hukou they can run for office. Whether or not they get elected another matter.
@anon24369109 for president!
Maybe you as you have better skillset and education.
@discobot fortune
My reply is no
The Great One has spoken. Donât quit your day job, Mr. TV.
Funny thing is in reality I work maybe 5 hours a week. Why would I need a day job? lol
So today I came to my office at 5:30am. There were 3 live events my company needed to provide to clients first one starting 6am. All three events we had live feeds up in a few minutes and as I donât trade the events I just dawdle playing chess or posting on forums, listening to music, reading some news. After the events finished at 10:30am I took my dog for a walk. Came home and then slept a few hours. Rain from around 4pm Played some more chess.
The stress I have is choosing what to eat for lunch and dinner every day.
Whether naturalized citizens or native-born citizens, they can become spies or agents of a foreign country.
During the Cold War, many of the Soviet spies arrested by the U.S. government in the United States were native-born U.S. citizens.
Thus, there is no data to prove that naturalized citizens are necessarily worse than native-born citizens in terms of loyalty.
Moreover, even if there is data proving that naturalized citizens are more likely to be foreign spies than native-born citizens, this does not therefore prohibit all naturalized citizens from running for president. Democracies should never restrict the rights of a certain group of people just because they are more likely to commit crimes. There are crime statistics in the United States that prove that blacks commit crimes at a higher rate than other races, so should the United States government arrest all blacks or uniformly deprive them of a certain right?
Besides, voters arenât stupid. If some naturalized citizen is hooking up with a foreign government, the electorate is not going to vote him in as president.
This guy got voted in because he was Party List. NZ uses partial first past the post voting with some MPs securing election by being on the party list. So no one knew who he was except for party bigwigs.
Fixed it for you.