I notice Taiwan has got to have the most draconian weapons laws in the world. You can’t have anything that shoots bullets, and even air guns are somewhat regulated too. Then you can’t have any knife or sword over certain length being sharp. I wonder did they make the law back in the 50’s when Chang kai shek was in power and he didn’t want people to challange that, then it stuck today to prevent crimes?
So if gun laws are so draconian how do people hunt? with clubs or bows and arrow? I notice you can’t have crossbows either…
For these questions, I would defer to the Kill Lian Chan guy at the airport and the southern gangsters who obviously have plenty of air guns to shoot at protestors. We also know that you can always make your own gun that shoots two bullets.
Most countries have strict gun laws. Japan’s laws are perhaps the strictest in the world. But even in Japan you can still be a member of a gun club, and they have a rather successful biathlon program IIRC.
The US is a notable exception with its liberal guns laws.
[quote=“rahimiiii”]I notice Taiwan has got to have the most draconian weapons laws in the world. You can’t have anything that shoots bullets, and even air guns are somewhat regulated too. Then you can’t have any knife or sword over certain length being sharp. I wonder did they make the law back in the 50’s when Chang kai shek was in power and he didn’t want people to challange that, then it stuck today to prevent crimes?
So if gun laws are so draconian how do people hunt? with clubs or bows and arrow? I notice you can’t have crossbows either…[/quote]
i believe its still the case in Malaysia where if you are caught POSSESSING a gun there is a MANDATORY DEATH SENTENCE.
by the way I understand that all HUNTING is illegal in Taiwan. I for one am ALL for gun control and the ban on hunting.
To prevent people like meself from shooting the next guy to run a red light, or the next perv, gay bastard trying to get his hands in me pants at gym. That’s why. :raspberry: :raspberry:
[quote=“rahimiiii”]I notice Taiwan has got to have the most draconian weapons laws in the world. You can’t have anything that shoots bullets, and even air guns are somewhat regulated too. Then you can’t have any knife or sword over certain length being sharp. I wonder did they make the law back in the 50’s when Chang kai shek was in power and he didn’t want people to challange that, then it stuck today to prevent crimes?
So if gun laws are so draconian how do people hunt? with clubs or bows and arrow? I notice you can’t have crossbows either…[/quote]
I believe Denmark has pretty much the same law, which I think is good.
…and I never understood the hunting part these days anyways
They toughened the already tough gun laws when Chen Ching-hsing (陳進興) and his band of kidnappers nabbed and murdered Pai Ping-ping’s (白冰冰) daughter and then had a series of running gun battles with the Taipei cops back in 1997.
Here’s Lawrence Eyton on the climax to that particular saga:
[quote=“tinster”][quote=“rahimiiii”]I notice Taiwan has got to have the most draconian weapons laws in the world. You can’t have anything that shoots bullets, and even air guns are somewhat regulated too. Then you can’t have any knife or sword over certain length being sharp. I wonder did they make the law back in the 50’s when Chang kai shek was in power and he didn’t want people to challange that, then it stuck today to prevent crimes?
So if gun laws are so draconian how do people hunt? with clubs or bows and arrow? I notice you can’t have crossbows either…[/quote]
I believe Denmark has pretty much the same law, which I think is good.
…and I never understood the hunting part these days anyways[/quote]
I truly believe that responsible people with weapons will use them responsibly, so that should tell you why I truly believe that Taiwan is no where near ready to allow the general public to carry firearms. They can barely use vehicles responsibly and often show a tendancy towards violence in very mild situations of dispute. Arm these people? Then I’m outta here!
Just because they have tough laws doesn’t mean there aren’t plenty of illegal hand guns around. There was a time when every su la wanker gangster wannabe would proudly out his Glock for a giggle. Taichung and Changhua in particular offer some good venues for seeing firearms.
[quote=“Huang Guang Chen”]Just because they have tough laws doesn’t mean there aren’t plenty of illegal hand guns around. There was a time when every su la wanker gangster wannabe would proudly out his Glock for a giggle. Taichung and Changhua (Zhanghua) in particular offer some good venues for seeing firearms.
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Yea that troubles me even more, the fact they can have guns and we honest law abiding citizens cant. Plus half these gangsters dont know how to use one and added to the fact they flip over anything (like over 20nt for example… people in American jails are way less violent than that) it is a recipe for disaster.
[quote=“Doctor Evil”]For the first week or so things might be alittle iffy…but after things quieted down abit, folks would be a hell of alot more polite. [/quote]Dr. E -
I hear what you’re saying and I agree with Col Coopers quote, but this society has the maturity level of a drunken 15 yr old on acid and meth.
It would just be too darn dangerous for the average citizen.
I don’t even trust the Police and Military here when it comes to weapons use.
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Of course it might be the dose of cholrine needed in this rather polluted gene pool.
[quote=“TainanCowboy”][quote=“Doctor Evil”]For the first week or so things might be alittle iffy…but after things quieted down abit, folks would be a hell of alot more polite. [/quote]Dr. E -
I hear what you’re saying and I agree with Col Coopers quote, but this society has the maturity level of a drunken 15 yr old on acid and meth.
It would just be too darn dangerous for the average citizen.
I don’t even trust the Police and Military here when it comes to weapons use.
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Of course it might be the dose of cholrine needed in this rather polluted gene pool.[/quote]
YES. TAiwanese should only be allowed to carry water pistols. LoOk at the case of the policeman who brought out his revolver to defend himself against an attacker and just as he opened fire the aggressor knocked his gun away and the cop ended up killing a young girl standing on her balcony watching the action. Poor girl lost her life. Taiwan cops arent even well trained in firearms. Give guns to the average very temperamental Taiwanese??? NO WAY.
nOBODY with a taiwanese GF could sleep either :) My ex would come at me with a knife now and then. Dis-arming her of that was easier.
Course American cops here in California are very trigger happy too. Several times police called to a home disturbance end up killing a family member because he/she appeared to threaten them.
Guns are very dangerous and if guns were very common in Taiwan? it will be like the wild wild west but FAR WORSE.
[quote=“tommy525”]Course American cops here in California are very trigger happy too.[/quote]Oh really? And with what facts do back-up such a statement with? Keep in mind that I lived in both the San Francisco area and southern Cali for a total of almost 20 years. And I was an avid sport shooter during my time there, as well as being involved with training both civilians and some LEO groups in firearms useage. And also a life member of the NRA since 1960.[quote=“tommy525”] Several times police called to a home disturbance end up killing a family member because he/she appeared to threaten them.[/quote]Its called “Self-defense.”
What part of - Put down the gun! Put down the knife! Put down the iron bar! Back up! Do not come any closer! - Do you not understand? I think Chris Rock has some very good advice regarding situations like this.
[quote=“tommy525”]“Guns are very dangerous…”[/quote]No Tommy, guns are not “very dangerous. Guns are inanimate objects that posess neither the ability or thought process to be “dangerous” on their own. It is the person holding/using the gun which is dangerous. Either through anger, stupidity, lack of training or bad fortune.[quote=“tommy525”]”… and if guns were very common in Taiwan? it will be like the wild wild west but FAR WORSE.[/quote]I am in complete agreement with this.
America has a thing or two to learn from Taiwan’s ‘draconian’ culture. It’s unfortunate the culture of guns and violence is so deeply entrenched in American society.
Amish School a ‘Horrendous Crime Scene’ After Shooting
Taiwanese simply use “fruit” knives. I’ve posted before official Taiwan MOJ statistics showing the murder rate to be the same or even higher than that of the US.
[quote=“TainanCowboy”][quote=“tommy525”]Course American cops here in California are very trigger happy too.[/quote]Oh really? And with what facts do back-up such a statement with? Keep in mind that I lived in both the San Francisco area and southern Cali for a total of almost 20 years. And I was an avid sport shooter during my time there, as well as being involved with training both civilians and some LEO groups in firearms useage. And also a life member of the NRA since 1960.[quote=“tommy525”] Several times police called to a home disturbance end up killing a family member because he/she appeared to threaten them.[/quote]Its called “Self-defense.”
What part of - Put down the gun! Put down the knife! Put down the iron bar! Back up! Do not come any closer! - Do you not understand? I think Chris Rock has some very good advice regarding situations like this.
i remember police were called to a san jose home not long ago. this vietnamese woman was raising a ruckus. she understood zero english and when she raised a vegetable peeler and was told to drop it (she didnt understand the command) she was blasted with many shots killing her on the spot. unnecesarry to dis-arm a person with a vegetable peeler. EXCESSIVE USE OF FORCE.
a young man was told to drop it at the metreon theatre and when he refused he was shot over 20 times. SHOT TO DEATH. he had a knife and actually was a mental patient. no telling if he planned to use that knife. but shooting him the many times the police did was again EXCESSIVE USE OF FORCE.
there have been several like incidents here recently ( i currently live here and you LIVED here ) . where the police have had the opportunity to dis-arm the suspect without simply shooting him dead.
there was a young man who drove away and the police chased him for several miles. he turned out to be some teenager scared cuz he didnt have a license. Well they cornered him and shot him to death INSIDE HIS CAR.
its gotten very dangerous being a cop in SF (and my DAD was a SF COP ). Some policemen dont want to risk their lives finding out exactly what the threat is. They simply blast away and worry bout it later.
the city of Richmond is a killing ground here and i wouldnt venture there NIGHT OR DAY. And OAKLAND has several homicides EVERYDAY.
its dangerous here. and you simply dont go to many places.
of course Guns by themselves are inanimate objects and its people who kill , not guns. but the ready access to guns have resulted in tragedy often. And yet? its not clear in teh usa where gun control is impossible whether every adult person should be versed in gun ownership like having a car? im not sure if thats the way to go?
its imposssible to control guns in the usa. alll the baddies have em. should we allow all the goodies to have em too? not sure. jury is still out on that one.
:)