My goodness, I am just glad my scroll finger is quick enough to skip over some of these pictures. I am at work.
that’s a darn shame too. my mama always said men’s genitals are like a box of chocolates. you never know what you’re gonna get.
:shock:
sharky, i’ve never dressed for other women~! I have of course noticed other women and other women have of course noticed me, but when it comes to dressing sexy, it is primarily to get noticed by men. read any cosmo magazine, like sandman does, and you’d know that!
they have all these items about how to dress if you want to attract a certain sort of man! :?
i will say though that nowadays women dress far sexier than they have in many years. i saw so many tanned torsos in hip huggers and bobbling breasts in europe that it was sometimes hard to tell who the prostitutes were. but that’s the style now, ala brittney spears, jennifer lopez, and that other one, christina aguilera, etc, not a criticism.
i do think women who ‘have it’, should flaunt it since it doesn’t last forever unless they get ‘work’ done, and even then, there’s always the younger babes. look at goldie hawn’s daughter, for example. mom looks fantastic for fifty plus, but kate hudson is a true young babe.
and you guys are right. women are very picky about who they get noticed BY! sorry to say that, but it’s true. you don’t want some dirty old boozehead leering down your top!
whomever said that tidbit about women on holiday in bali (or anywhere for that matter) hit the nail on the head, excuse the pun.
the only problem i had with bali boys is that they’re a bit ‘xiao bai lian’.
not tremendously flattering when it’s all said and done. also, if i may be frank, bali boys aren’t nearly as “pleasing” as they look!
ask me about italians.
i’ve never seen a culture more open about appreciating the female sex. they openly stare and stare (ogle), and watch women walk by, the old guys and the young guys, and if you make eye contact with them, watch out! and they don’t want you to buy them a cell phone or dinner like the bali boys do…
i’m positive that women dress sexy in italy for the men. they’d have to wear habits otherwise!
:?
Men have been emphasizing their genitals in some cultures for some time now.
Not to mention the Bruegel paintings of mid 16th century Flemmish peasants.
etaiwannews.com/Taiwan/2003/ … 394061.htm
I love it. Some French “artiste” is in Taipei to photogrub some Taiwaner girls ithe nude and then post a show of them on August 19. He says in the Taiwan News today that
“nudity is the remembrance of things past and things future, and when I photograph the innocent young pert nubile things of Taipei in my dark and secret studio so they can later have sex with me as a form of remembrance of things past and future, i am reminded of Proust and Voltaire and …”
and he goes on and on like that. What rubbish. Jean-Paul, why don’t you just come right out with it and say: “I wanna [___] some Taiwan young things while I am here doing my international, er, intercourse, photo studies.”
Nude exhibit. What hokkum! Watch the TV shows say about this gentleman from Paris when the show opens.
“He shows the wonderful remembrances of zee birthday zuit things of pert bosomed young women as they walk zee streets of Taibei…”
WHAT HE REALLY SAID:
Bosser said that nudity is a metaphor of the nostalgia of life. “We are in fact, the remembrance of time and life, and nudity explains everything because it is memory. It is the memory of the world’s birth,” he said.
…an exhibition of Jacques Bosser’s photography with nudes of local models will open on August 19 at the Taipei Artist Village and end on September 10.
[quote=“mod lang”][quote=“marky”]
You don’t see men wearing clothes that emphasize their genitals.
[/quote]
And thank god for that!
But really, it comes down to selfish human illogic. Women want men to notice their bodies - the right kind of men, i.e., the attractive (or rich) ones. Acceptable behaviour towards women varies greatly depending on whether you look more like Brad Pitt or Danny DeVito.
I’m thrilled and extremely flattered when I catch some cute xiaojie checking me out. I’m disgusted and repulsed when I catch some ugly old tai-tai or gay man leering at me. It’s illogical to feel disgusted and repulsed whenever someone shows sexual interest in you - logically, the immediate feeling should be of feeling flattered that your body is good enough to be worth checking out, regardless of whether you find the leerer attractive or not. But human feelings are notoriously illogical and erratic. [/quote]
I usually try to be flattered, no matter who it is looking at me – even a girl. 
However, I admit, I still have trouble if it is someone who I don’t find attractive.
I’m glad, mod lang, that you at least recognize that it is illogical when someone (even a gay man) finds you attractive. Many str8 guys aren’t even that open-minded about it. Just because I look at you, doesn’t mean I think you are gay or I’m going to try to jump your bones. I just find you attractive (hypothetically, since I’ve never seen you in person), and you should find it flattering. No matter who it is or what sex they are.
A standing “O” for you. 
[quote=“blueface666”]Girls will be girls… 
UK.news.yahoo.com/030829/325/e74g0.html[/quote]
OK… can someone tell me why many (all?) str8 guys find two girls kissing (or other things) so damn sexy? I can’t figure that out, especially when the same guys will talk about getting violently ill if they see two guys even holding hands.
If you think that homosexuality is so disgusting (and that is the general “Str8 guy you,” not the “blueface666 you”), then it shouldn’t matter whether it is two guys or two girls. Should it? :?
Ok… I know this is off thread. So, moderator, please feel free to split this into another.
[quote=“QuietMountain”]
I’m glad, mod lang, that you at least recognize that it is illogical when someone (even a gay man) finds you attractive. [/quote]
Hey, hold on a minute here!!! I may not be Brandon Frasier but I ain’t that ugly!
Because two hot babes making out is fun to watch, while two guys . . . well, who wants to think about guys doing anything to anyone, much less to another guy?? Yuck. Gross. I can’t imagine why women put up with it, even.
BTW, not all guys find lezzies sexy. I’ve actually met one who finds it disgusting. Can’t explain that one. . . .
I have a lesbian friend who is totally into gay male porn. What’s that all about?
I’d personally rather see Madonna and Brittney.
Arent people weird!
[quote=“mod lang”][quote=“QuietMountain”]
I’m glad, mod lang, that you at least recognize that it is illogical when someone (even a gay man) finds you attractive. [/quote]
Hey, hold on a minute here!!! I may not be Brandon Frasier but I ain’t that ugly![/quote]
I never said you were ugly… did I? I just said that when someone, anyone finds you attractive (which I’m sure you are, though I’ve never met you) it is a compliment. That goes for you, me, Alien, MaPoDoFu, anyone…
[quote=“MaPoDoFu”]Because two hot babes making out is fun to watch, while two guys . . . well, who wants to think about guys doing anything to anyone, much less to another guy?? Yuck. Gross. I can’t imagine why women put up with it, even.
BTW, not all guys find lezzies sexy. I’ve actually met one who finds it disgusting. Can’t explain that one. . . .[/quote]
Ok… MPDF, this still doesn’t answer my question. This is like just saying, “because” when someone asks you “why.”
I asked WHY str8 guys find it fun/sexy and you just say “Because two hot babes making out is fun to watch…” But, that doesn’t give a reason why that is fun and even seeing a guy holding hands is so disgusting.
I have a theory… but, I hesitate to offer it up, as I’m sure I’ll get “pounced” on (and not in a good way :P) by the str8 guys on here.
BTW, I’m a guy and I don’t find lezzies (as you so quaintly put it) sexy.
Alien, I don’t know about your lesbian friends, but I have heard that many women like to watch gay porn. The reason is that the guys in gay porn are usually far superior to the sleazoids that are in str8 porn. I guess, st8 porn, being mainly for str8 men, focuses more on making sure the women are huge breasted, blonde and… uh… sexy. And, they don’t worry about who is… um… doing them.
[quote=“QuietMountain”]
Alien, I don’t know about your lesbian friends, but I have heard that many women like to watch gay porn. The reason is that the guys in gay porn are usually far superior to the sleazoids that are in str8 porn. I guess, st8 porn, being mainly for str8 men, focuses more on making sure the women are huge breasted, blonde and… uh… sexy. And, they don’t worry about who is… um… doing them.[/quote]
Oh, you mean like Ron Jeremy? 10 inch penis or not, he’s revolting! 
I have no idea who that is… I haven’t watched str8 porn since I gained access to gay porn. And, that was… oh… 10+ years ago… and, even then I tended to watch bi porn (which often use “stars” who work in gay porn, 'cause they are willing to “do” the guy).
[quote=“QuietMountain”]
OK… can someone tell me why many (all?) str8 guys find two girls kissing (or other things) so damn sexy? [/quote]
Alright, QM, I’ll do my best for you.
I don’t find two girls kissing sexy at all – in fact, it largely turns me off. But I do enjoy looking at two girls undressing each other, frolicking about partially or fully naked together, and even perhaps caressing and bringing each other to climax. It’s lovely to see a babe doing that by herself, so it’s double the pleasure to see two of them together – and a large writhing mass of them would be absolutely heavenly, as long as they kept their tongues and mouths apart.
In fact, I don’t enjoy watching porn in which a guy performs with a girl, no matter how gorgeous the girl might be. I prefer to watch porn which has absolutely no other males anywhere in sight – just me, the girl, and my imagination. So if the show needs to have more than one performer, much better that the other or others also be of the tender gender.
Does that help shed any light on this mystery?
The reason that for the longest time men were ugly in str8 porn is so the viewers could empathise, then somebody realise that actually you sell a lot more videos if you make them appeal to couples and families and not just sad lonely ugly single men.
As for lezzaz kissin, dunno, don’t see the big deal, (am a guy) think it’s part of the same mentality that doesn’t like to see guys in porn, basically closet homosexuals who react with extreme internal (but maybe not external) homophobia and try to put a barrier up to ensure they never cum whilst looking at a man, so they opt for lez porn, then they go to Bangkok and have sex with a lady boy and claim that “it” lied and said it was a she and the bar was dark blah blah.
Disclaimer: this is not neccessrily my opinion, just an opinion
[quote=“Eatlife”]
As for lezzaz kissin, dunno, don’t see the big deal, (am a guy) think it’s part of the same mentality that doesn’t like to see guys in porn, basically closet homosexuals who react with extreme internal (but maybe not external) homophobia and try to put a barrier up to ensure they never cum whilst looking at a man, so they opt for lez porn, [/quote]
That is very strange logic, Eatlife! I’m afraid it loses me completely. Surely a closet homosexual would be thrilled to watch a man performing with a woman in a porn film or show, because he could pretend to himself that he was just looking at and fantasizing about doing it with the woman, while deep down enjoying feasting his eyes on the guy and imagining himself being with him in place of the woman. Doesn’t that make rather more sense?
[quote=“QuietMountain”][quote=“mod lang”][quote=“QuietMountain”]
I’m glad, mod lang, that you at least recognize that it is illogical when someone (even a gay man) finds you attractive. [/quote]
Hey, hold on a minute here!!! I may not be Brandon Frasier but I ain’t that ugly![/quote]
I never said you were ugly… did I? I just said that when someone, anyone finds you attractive (which I’m sure you are, though I’ve never met you) it is a compliment. That goes for you, me, Alien, MaPoDoFu, anyone…[/quote]
Read your sentence again. The way you constructed your sentence, it was saying that it was illogical for anyone to find me attractive :? I know what you meant to say, but your sloppy grammar made that sentence appear to say something else :shock:
The answer to your question, QM, regarding why straight guys often get excited about two women kissing or making love but express revulsion when two men do the same is due to societal conditioning. Rather than viewing different sexual preferences as merely alternatives that we may or may not wish to indulge in (whether it is sex between the same gender, multiple partners, biracial, large age differences, etc), we have been taught by our parents, friends, religious and social groups, the media, and virtually everyone we encounter that certain practices are wrong, sinful, immoral, disgusting, perverted and a sign of sickness. And eventually we believe that to a certain extent.
People definitely have preferences for certain sexual partners or behavior, but where do those preferences come from? Are they locked into our DNA? Are the genitals of heteros different from homos? I don’t think so. Sex teachers ask, “what is the biggest sexual organ?” The answer, surprisingly, is not my schlong but is the brain. If we’re turned on or off by certain acts it’s largely in the mind. . . well there and the nerve endings in our genitalia or wherever (did you notice in the Blue Ulysses thread that some guys were excited about her half naked avatar, but then suddenly got nervous when it was suggested that BU might be male). The disgust that heteros often express for homos is in the mind.
How come people joke about the straight guy in Thailand who is shocked and embarrassed to discover the lady he was attracted to is a boy? Has it ever occurred that such a situation actually went so far that the tourist was fellated by the ladyboy before discovering the gender of his servicer? I’m sure it has happened. In such a situation, even if the tourist claims to be strictly hetero but was unaware that he was being duped, isn’t it likely that until learning the true facts he might be totally satisfied with the service? But if he then learned that his lady was a boy, things might change. His satisfaction might turn to anger. He might even beat up the ladyboy. Why? If he was satisfied with the service, what would cause such anger? It’s not just that he was deceived. It’s that he was tricked into engaging in a sexual act that he had been conditioned to believe is disgusting. His anger would probably be compounded by the fact that he knows, deep down inside, that he actually enjoyed it. All this time he’s mocked faggots with his buddies but now he received satisfaction from one and he actually enjoyed it.
I am happily hetero and married, but I will admit that men can undoubtedly perform fellatio every bit as well as women. Why wouldn’t they be able to? In fact, gays even seem to have a point when they say they can do it better because they know what turns them on. But I’m not interested in having a man prove that to me because I’ve been conditioned over the years to prefer women. I don’t hate gays and they don’t make me uncomfortable, but I’d rather be with a woman.
But many people can’t admit the above. Perhaps some boys/men feel insecure and feel a need to proclaim their manhood by publicly announcing their attraction to nubile xiajies and their revulsion for homos, or whatever. And if it’s manly to lust after a woman, isn’t it doubly manly to lust after two of them together (and to fantasize that they would invite you to join them)? It’s the same if a racist proclaims how disgusting it would be to copulate with a person of another race (“I’m a good klansman, I find all colored girls disgusting, even the sexy beautiful naked ones”). They would never admit that, deep down inside, if they were duped into such a situation where their active prejudices couldn’t shout out, “NO, Stop,” that maybe they might enjoy it.
That’s just my theory. If someone has a different theory for why straight guys often find gay women sexy but gay men disgusting, I’d be curious to hear it.