Xinbei City?

Politics Taiwan Politics
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Re: Taipei Times 12/7/09
Chou calls on KMT to focus on 2010 polls
Ko Shu-ling
taipeitimes.com/News/front/a … 2003460364

[color=#0000BF]One day after mayor and county commissioner elections, attention turned yesterday to next year’s special municipality elections, with Taipei County Commissioner Chou Hsi-wei urging the Chinese Nationalist Party to begin the nomination process and Democratic Progressive Party Chairperson Tsai Ing-wen remaining mum on whether she would stand for election.

The five municipalities holding elections next December are Taipei City, Taipei County - which will be upgraded and renamed Sinbei City - and a merged Taichung County and City, Tainan County and City, and Kaohsiung County and City.

Chou, who early last month said he would run for the top job of Sinbei City, said yesterday the KMT should begin preparing for primaries as soon as possible, preferably after the Lunar New Year.[/color]

[color=#BF0000]sinbei city[/color]

Aside from all the external influences wanting eventual big changes to the long-standing, local political landscape, wouldn’t a decision changing the P in “Taipei” into a B to make it “Taibei” represent enough of a sea-change by historical standards?

I know … I know, ‘Sin’ here only means ‘Chinese’, not … ‘act of evil.’

So, I guess this means … from now on … let’s all root for ‘Chinese Sinbei’ at the Olympics, etc. No big deal.

Still … somehow, changing the name of Taipei [even as an adminstrative district] to “Sinbei City” seems radically harsh to me. [Besides, the place doesn’t even have a casino.]

[color=#800080]that other ‘sin city’[/color]

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Of course what the Taipei Times won’t tell you is that it will be romanized as “Xinbei” not “Sinbei” (the TT still clings to Tongyong, a dying romanization). Nothing to do with China, mallard - the “Sin” is for “new” as in New North City. Still, 新北市 is an exceedingly stupid name for the new conurbation.

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Really? I would assume the ‘sin’ to be Tongyong for xin1 新, ‘new’. :idunno:

Edit: oops, Taffy beat me to it.

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You know that in the word Xinbei, the X is a stand in for that rude word Fuck.

Excellent choice: Fuckin’north.

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But Taipei is still going to be Taipei, isn’t it? I hope, I hope, I hope…

Don’t let it go the way of Bombay and Rangoon… :pray:

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AFAIK, Xinbei city will be the new name for Taipei County. Correct me if I am wrong, but Taibei city remains unchanged.

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That post doesn’t make much sense…anyway it could very well change it’s name to XinBei in the medium term as that would more properly reflect the metro area.

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[quote=“Chris”]But Taipei is still going to be Taipei, isn’t it? I hope, I hope, I hope…

Don’t let it go the way of Bombay and Rangoon… :pray:[/quote]

Well, unlike Bombay and Rangoon, Taipei is a national capital… for now…

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Doesn’t Taipei County still use Tongyong as its official pinyin system?

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[quote=“ludahai”]Doesn’t Taipei County still use Tongyong as its official pinyin system?[/quote]Nope. The central government has mandated Hanyu Pinyin, and independently of that decision Taipei County Magistrate Chou Hsi-wei actually found a moment between photo opportunities and palling around with gangsters to declare the switch to HP too. The change is underway in Banqiao and other areas of the county.

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Thanks for the update on the local usage in Taipei County. Some localities are still using Tongyong, but I did not know Taipei County had made the switch.

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if only they would switch to be a nice city… :whistle:

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[color=#004080]Taffy[/color]:

“[color=#4000BF]Of course what the Taipei Times won’t tell you is that it will be romanized as “Xinbei” not “Sinbei” (the TT still clings to Tongyong, a dying romanization). Nothing to do with China, mallard - the “Sin” is for “new” as in New North City. Still, 新北市 is an exceedingly stupid name for the new conurbation.[/color]”

Thank you for that very thoughtful clarification. I was expecting I’d need to be corrected about the actual meaning of “sin” as spelled by the academic power regime of choice over at the ever-politically-polar Taipei Times’, but never did I expect it would turn out to be over substance from the bowels of the romanilization debate.

Shin doesn’t look like sin to me, and whoever says otherwise must have some kind of bone-in beef to grind, but this is still no way to better these … burgers, in my opinion.

Anyway, thanks … now I get it. Maybe, it looks like “Sinbei” … to some … wanabes … for now, but it’s really only “Shinbei”, no matter how the heck you decide to spell it. The joke’s on whatever the idiot [moi] who thought you could just read it the way it’s spelled. D’uuuuuh.

Maybe these ‘power-sharing’ and redistricting wizards aren’t screwing with people’s minds, but it’s still ‘flirting’ - to say the least - if you ask me.

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it’s because Taiwanese cannot pronounce “sh”, and say “s”…

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:banana: Hooray!

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Taffy, are you suggesting that Chou Hsi-wei meets with other KMT people (palling around with gangsters)?

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Taipei County will supposed to be known soon as Xinbei City (as I understand it) (actually Sin City is more appropriate)
Seems innocuous enough but, I predict many problems.
Try ordering anything online with an established account. Your ATM/Visa card must match your account number on the card and actuality. - may be rejected. WTF! What is this about? I live in Tucheng and everybody I tell where I live knows nearly where I live. If I tell them that I live in Xinbei, I may live in or near any surrounding city. Will they know where I live? Not a hope in hell. People are connected to their community, They will continue to use their home town name.
Why do “managers” feel that their job is to change things? Baffling!
LEAVE MY HOMETOWN ALONE! I was going to say "fucking hometown"but I don’t want to offend all my friends,

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They should just go back to “Taihoku.”

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Can we get the Japanese to come back and run things too? :smiley:
At least judging by some old pictures that someone posted, this place was a clean city with straight streets and no litter back then…

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What I want to know is how are addresses in Taipei County going to be written under the Xinbei City system?

Current Sytem: 台北縣中和市… (Taipei County, Zhonghe City…)
New System: 新北市中和市…? (Xinbei City, Zhonghe City…)?

I don’t see any way around that because different cities within Taipei County use the same names for different streets. However, it looks strange to call your address New Taipei City, Zhonghe City… A city within a city. How many levels of nested cities can you go up to? As if that wasn’t enough, Xinbei City will completely surround Taipei City.