# Xindian community forced to pay 40k for water privileges

**URL:** <https://tw.forumosa.com/t/xindian-community-forced-to-pay-40k-for-water-privileges/180510>\
**Category:** Legal - Real Estate & Housing\
**Created:** [June 6, 2019, 2:56am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/xindian-community-forced-to-pay-40k-for-water-privileges/180510 "2019-06-06T02:56:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![Icon](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/icon/32/189245_2.png) [@Icon](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Icon)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2019, 2:56am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/xindian-community-forced-to-pay-40k-for-water-privileges/180510/1 "2019-06-06T02:56:31Z")

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It has been on the news recently that a company in mafiosi style bought the property where one of the water pumps to a community up the hills in Xindian, is holding the population hostage forcing them to pay 40k or else no water, affecting also one of the posh private schools in the area. People have resorted to unsightly giant water tanks and delivery trucks but the dispute is ongoing and there is no relief in sight.

Since this area is also very popular with the foreigners -lovely real houses and townhouse complexes they have there- I thought you guys might want a heads up.

> **[每月得先付4萬8才能用自來水！新店大台北華城爆發用水爭議 康橋中學被迫停課 | 聯合新聞網](https://udn.com/news/story/6839/3849503)**
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> 位於新店大台北華城的三個別墅社區及知名的康橋中學，上周五（5月31日）起，爆發停水危機，康橋中學還因此被迫停課，管委會今（6月2日）發出緊急聲明，指大台北華城秀岡山莊一千一百多名居民與二千名左右師生，遭惡質建商金主恐嚇付錢未果，第八、九、十號自來水加壓站竟被非法強佔，並斷電斷水，致居民已沒水可用，無法上課。

> **[水利局開鎖復電 大台北華城復水 | 聯合新聞網](https://udn.com/news/story/7323/3851062)**
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> 新北市新店區大台北華城社區及康橋中學，疑因社區自來水加壓設施遭建商永柏企業斷電，從5月31日起爆發停水危機，新北市水利局前天起與建商協調未果，除設置臨時供水站減低缺水影響，昨天下午也會同社區管委會等，強勢打開遭建商上鎖的加壓站，恢復供水，維護市民用水權益。

> **[新店爆土地糾紛波及學生沒水用 康橋：調派水車支援 | 聯合新聞網](https://udn.com/news/story/7323/3849911)**
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> 新北市新店區大台北華城的三個別墅社區被今周刊爆出停水危機，連知名康橋國際學校秀岡校區上月31日也傳被迫停課。不過，康橋...

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**Author:** ![Excalibur](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/f07891/32.png) [@Excalibur](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Excalibur)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2019, 3:00am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/xindian-community-forced-to-pay-40k-for-water-privileges/180510/2 "2019-06-06T03:00:08Z")

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![Screenshot_20190606-105923_Google](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/images/transparent.png)

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**Author:** ![slawa](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/slawa/32/112823_2.png) [@slawa](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/slawa)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2019, 3:09am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/xindian-community-forced-to-pay-40k-for-water-privileges/180510/3 "2019-06-06T03:09:58Z")

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Why was it built on private land in the first place? At least there should be a permanent contract for those pumps.

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**Author:** ![tempogain](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/tempogain/32/264650_2.png) [@tempogain](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/tempogain)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2019, 3:16am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/xindian-community-forced-to-pay-40k-for-water-privileges/180510/4 "2019-06-06T03:16:42Z")

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That’s how it works up in the mountains where the city water doesn’t extend. You have to contract to get your water from where you can. My friend had some neighbor issues and the guy who supplied water to the neighborhood just cut him off, he couldn’t do anything about it despite contacting the city water management.

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**Author:** ![SuperS54](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/supers54/32/137985_2.png) [@SuperS54](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/SuperS54)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2019, 3:20am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/xindian-community-forced-to-pay-40k-for-water-privileges/180510/5 "2019-06-06T03:20:49Z")

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Looks like there is a very long and complicated legal history based on the article, it appears the community have been legally granted right of use/access however the fee for the use is in question.

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**Author:** ![Terry\_B](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/terry_b/32/82500_2.png) [@Terry\_B](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Terry_B)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2019, 3:28am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/xindian-community-forced-to-pay-40k-for-water-privileges/180510/6 "2019-06-06T03:28:43Z")

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48k per month for 1,100 residents plus a school that charges a fortune for tuition…works out to less than the price of a bottle of water per person. If it’s on private land, I don’t see that this is that terrible unless I’m missing something.

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**Author:** ![tempogain](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/tempogain/32/264650_2.png) [@tempogain](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/tempogain)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2019, 3:33am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/xindian-community-forced-to-pay-40k-for-water-privileges/180510/7 "2019-06-06T03:33:58Z")

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No, that’s per residence, at least for the 100-ping residence in the article. It says $480 per ping monthly and a one time $2880 per ping rights fee.

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**Author:** ![Icon](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/icon/32/189245_2.png) [@Icon](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Icon)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2019, 3:34am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/xindian-community-forced-to-pay-40k-for-water-privileges/180510/8 "2019-06-06T03:34:01Z")

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Ehem per ping:  
A小姐拿出永柏公司所發出的律師函，上頭清楚地寫著，一期社區住戶每月需支付每坪480元的「公共設施及土地使用費」，還有每坪2880元的權利金。以A小姐家一百坪計算，她家就必須支付28萬8千元的權利金及每月4萬8千元的使用費，才能有自來水可用。

The school´s fee:  
康橋得要付出2268萬的權利金，每月還得負擔378萬元的使用費。

Normal usage is 200 NTD where I live.

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**Author:** ![Terry\_B](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/terry_b/32/82500_2.png) [@Terry\_B](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Terry_B)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2019, 3:38am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/xindian-community-forced-to-pay-40k-for-water-privileges/180510/9 "2019-06-06T03:38:06Z")

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> [@tempogain](#):
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> No, that’s per residence, at least for the 100-ping residence in the article. It says $480 per ping monthly and a one time $2880 per ping rights fee.

Appreciated. I was going to insert “I have only skimmed through the articles” in my earlier post but that’s probably apparent now.

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**Author:** ![Zapman](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/z/67e7ee/32.png) [@Zapman](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Zapman)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2019, 5:37am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/xindian-community-forced-to-pay-40k-for-water-privileges/180510/10 "2019-06-06T05:37:34Z")

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Did it mention the old deal they had before this kicked off?

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**Author:** ![Zapman](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/z/67e7ee/32.png) [@Zapman](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Zapman)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2019, 5:38am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/xindian-community-forced-to-pay-40k-for-water-privileges/180510/11 "2019-06-06T05:38:45Z")

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> [@Icon](#):
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> lovely real houses

How much are lovely real houses, like the ones in the pictures?

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**Author:** ![Icon](https://forumosa-12829.kxcdn.com/user_avatar/tw.forumosa.com/icon/32/189245_2.png) [@Icon](https://tw.forumosa.com/u/Icon)\
**Post date:** [June 6, 2019, 5:42am UTC](https://tw.forumosa.com/t/xindian-community-forced-to-pay-40k-for-water-privileges/180510/12 "2019-06-06T05:42:00Z")

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Quite cheap, actually, considering, and some not as old as the ones in Yangmingshan.

I´ll put up a few links when I have the time.
