Yet Another Botched Execution in the US

[quote]COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) – At Christopher Newton’s execution by lethal injection last month, it took 90 minutes and at least 10 stabs of the needle for the execution team to find a vein. The procedure was so drawn out the staff paused to allow Newton a bathroom break.

The American Civil Liberties Union of Ohio responded with a wide-ranging request for state records, seeking, among other things, the names of the volunteer medics and guards who oversaw it. The request has drawn Ohio into a wider debate over whether executioners’ identities should be kept secret.

[b]Death penalty opponents say Newton’s May 24 lethal injection was the latest in a series of botched executions nationwide, and that executioners’ identities and professional credentials should be open to public scrutiny.

They point to the case of Dr. Alan Doerhoff, a participant in Missouri executions who was revealed in news reports to have been sued for malpractice more than 20 times. The state is no longer using his services.

They also point to the December execution of Florida inmate Angel Diaz, who took 34 minutes – twice as long as usual – to die. Executioners administered a rare second dose of lethal chemicals to Diaz, and an autopsy found the needles had been pushed through Diaz’s veins into the flesh of his arms.[/b]

A commission created afterward to study the incident called for more training and better protocols for executioners.

Richard Dieter, executive director of the Washington, D.C.-based Death Penalty Information Center, which opposes the death penalty, said the public can’t properly scrutinize the effectiveness of capital punishment without adequate information on those carrying it out.

“Public executions should be as public as possible,” he said. “They supposedly have nothing to hide, and as with anything government does, it benefits from more scrutiny. For medical personnel, yes, there may be a cost. But that’s sort of like the cost that the state, or all of us, bear.”

But death penalty advocates such as Michael Rushford, president of the Criminal Justice Legal Foundation in Sacramento, California, accuse capital punishment opponents of wanting to expose members of execution teams to intimidate them.

“The ACLU, which has staked out its turf as severely against the death penalty, will use this opportunity to out someone involved in an execution, and use it to put these people at risk,” he said. “Unfortunately, that’s how important their cause is to them.”

[b]Revealing the identities of doctors who take part in executions would expose them to sanctions by the American Medical Association, because it has said such doctors would be violating their oath to “first, do no harm,” Rushford said.

Exposing them would shrink the pool of willing volunteers and diminish the state’s ability to execute criminals, he said.[/b]

“They (the ACLU) were against the gas chamber 30 years ago – they said there was only one humane alternative and that would be lethal injection,” he said. “Now they’re setting up this Catch-22, saying only a doctor can do that, and knowing the doctor’s association won’t let them do it.”

Executions in North Carolina have been temporarily halted because of just such a hitch. State law had required that a doctor be present during an execution, but a federal judge said the doctor needed to actively monitor the inmate for pain. Doctors faced disciplinary action by the state medical board for doing so, however, which led to the halt.

Disputes are under way in Missouri and California over doctors’ roles in executions, and while doctors don’t currently participate in Ohio’s execution process, that could change pending a court decision.

Most of the 37 death penalty states shield execution team members’ identities. Last month, Missouri lawmakers approved a bill that would allow members of execution teams to sue anyone – including news organizations – who disclose their identities. It hasn’t been signed into law.

Dieter said he believes protecting the identity of executioners helps anesthetize the public to what takes place in the death chamber.

“There is this distance that we want with the process,” he said. “That’s why lethal injection came about, sort of to give a more medicinal, antiseptic feel to it. Now it’s backfired in that it’s not working well.”

But Rushford said executioners have a job that will naturally subject them to attacks and they deserve to be protected by government.

“The state should certainly monitor their background and training, but these people should be no more subject to ridicule than an abortion doctor who’s simply doing his job,” Rushford said.

“The law should come down hard on anyone who uses someone’s legal profession to raise harm against them. It should be a hate crime.”[/quote]

I have idea what this guy’s crimes were, but I can’t help but feel a little sorry for him. They’re standing there, continuously trying to kill him and failing at it, he’s probably freaking out…the whole bloody affair (intended) takes so long he has to take a bathroom break. Makes the whole thing look kind of barbaric. Of course he could have been a real monster though.

Imagine that…the act of poisoning someone to death appearing barbaric. Say it ain’t so!

Did you support the US’ actions in Afghanistan? Most of the world did, including the Vatican and the UN. And yet there have been probably thousands of non-combatants killed, including kids. Probably ten times as many wounded. So we’ll accept limbless six year olds or dead 2 day olds but we won’t kill serial killers and baby rapists/murderers? Sounds pretty illogical to me.

While I am a perrennial waverer in terms of death sentences, I do think the US populace, as one of the main proponents of killing a prisoner, actually needs to learn much more of what actually goes on in an execution chamber.

Me too. When I read the profiles on some of these guys I became avidly pro death penalty, but when I actually read about the executions, I get the feeling its wrong. I usually take a firmer stand on issues, but with this one I can’t seem to make up my mind.

I can never understand how one kind of killing is O.K. and another completely unacceptable. I can never accept the death of someone because of their shortcomings and if I could then I would execute every person in Taiwan that drives a vehicle and somehow kills an innocent person whether it be their own family or someone else’s.
Where can anyone claim to draw the line when it comes to killing an individual?

Most, if not all, inmates on death row are murderers. Their resulting deaths from whatever manner of death penalty is used state to state are far more humane than anything they granted their victims.

Yes, authorities should be able to perfect the procedure, but another botched execution in the US isn’t going to cause me to lose any sleep.

[quote]
“The execution team stuck Newton at least 10 times with needles to get in place the shunts used to administer the lethal chemicals. Newton, who had insisted on the death penalty as punishment for killing a cellmate, continued to talk, smile and laugh with the prison staff, and at one point was even given a bathroom break.”

“Newton had insisted on the death penalty as punishment for choking and beating Jason Brewer, 27, his cellmate at the Mansfield Correctional Center, over a chess game in 2001.”
"Newton’s obesity explains the difficulty in accessing his veins and the motion visible in the execution chamber, Dean said.

“When Newton got to Lucasville, he told us himself that his veins sat really deep. We did checks and we saw veins,” said Dean, who was present during the execution. “He was thick, and his veins sat deep.”
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Sounds like he was cool with it. Personally I would go with the PRC method - taken to a courtyard, made to kneel and put a bullet behind their ear. Then call the family to claim the body and pay for the bullet.

Hey TC, you’re sooo behind the times, dude. The Chinese are doing lethal injection now also. I guess cause it saves messing up those potentially lucrative Fa Lun Gang organs.

HG


This is a “Death Car” mobile execution unit. China is now executing criminals in these units.

VAN SPECS
Cost: $37,500 to $75,000, depending on vehicle’s size
Length: 20 to 26 feet
Top speed: 65 to 80 mph

THREE SECTIONS
Execution chamber: in the back, with blacked-out windows; seats beside the stretcher for a court doctor and guards; sterilizer for injection equipment; wash basin
Observation area: in the middle, with a glass window separating it from execution area; can accommodate six people; official-in-charge oversees the execution through monitors connected to the prisoner and gives instruction via walkie-talkie.
Driver area

Production to date: at least 40 vehicles, made by Jinguan and two other companies in Jiangsu and Shandong provinces

[quote]
China makes ultimate punishment mobile
Updated 6/15/2006 5:06 PM
By Calum MacLeod, USA TODAY
CHONGQING, China — Zhang Shiqiang, known as the Nine-Fingered Devil, first tasted justice at 13. His father caught him stealing and cut off one of Zhang’s fingers.
Twenty-five years later, in 2004, Zhang met retribution once more, after his conviction for double murder and rape. He was one of the first people put to death in China’s new fleet of mobile execution chambers.

The country that executed more than four times as many convicts as the rest of the world combined last year is slowly phasing out public executions by firing squad in favor of lethal injections. Unlike the United States and Singapore, the only two other countries where death is administered by injection, China metes out capital punishment from specially equipped “death vans” that shuttle from town to town.

Makers of the death vans say the vehicles and injections are a civilized alternative to the firing squad, ending the life of the condemned more quickly, clinically and safely. The switch from gunshots to injections is a sign that China “promotes human rights now,” says Kang Zhongwen, who designed the Jinguan Automobile death van in which “Devil” Zhang took his final ride. [/quote][/quote]

Bullet to the head is cheaper.

Agreed, but potentially messes up those lucrative corneas.

You’ll find the modern China executee is not only able to compensate the state for the cost of the bullet, but also much of the slops they’ve managed to slurp down in that short interim between being charged, sentenced and dspatched. It’s a win-win for everyone!

HG

[quote=“Huang Guang Chen”]Agreed, but potentially messes up those lucrative corneas.

HG[/quote]

You must be joking. As we all know, that those chemicals used probably cause more damage than a simple shot to the head. Using chemicals doesn’t seem logical.

Those chemcials are merely anaesthetic agents. Nothing particularly toxic in there at all. Basically they give you an anaesthetic but without the airway and oxygen. They then load you up with potassium, which occurs naturally but in high doses can cause the electrical firing of the heart muscle to repolarise.

Nothing in there to harm anything anymore than mum getting ready to have her gall bladder removed.

HG

[quote=“Huang Guang Chen”]mum getting ready to have her gall bladder removed.

HG[/quote]

Don’t you mean ‘harvested’?

BroonAnaesthetic

Nah, they’d harvest yer mum’s heart and lungs, but her spleen, gall bladder and testicles would go in the bin.

HG

[quote=“sulavaca”]I can never understand how one kind of killing is O.K. and another completely unacceptable. I can never accept the death of someone because of their shortcomings and if I could then I would execute every person in Taiwan that drives a vehicle and somehow kills an innocent person whether it be their own family or someone else’s.
Where can anyone claim to draw the line when it comes to killing an individual?[/quote]

Another way of looking it is to think that kidnapping is never justified. How can one type of kidnapping be OK but another completely unacceptable?

If Joe wrestles Dave, handcuffs him, locks him in a cage, and keeps him alive in that cage for years on end, its kidnapping.

If the State does the same thing to Dave, its called imprisonment (assuming the arrest is lawfu, there’s a fair trial etc.). Same thing happens to Dave, but even the most ardent opponents of the death penalty don’t question the morality of (legal) imprisonment.

Well the prisoner could be cool with us torturing him as punishment, but we aren’t going to do that. That some prisoners actually want to be executed doesn’t mean much to me.

If the death penalty is justified (and again, I admit to wobbling on this one a hell of a lot), it doesn’t have anything to do with whether the prisoner accepts it or not.

I know a former Texas prosecutor who used to be hardcare pro death penalty until she actually watched a prisoner executed in person. He was crying, begging the guards/medical team not to kill him. Same kind of thing as in the case above, they couldn’t find a vein and the man kept crying and begging for his life.

After seeing that spectacle she changed her view.

I dunno. Maybe the guy deserved it and as another poster said he obviously didn’t show the same mercy to his victim(s). But still, I get creeped out thinking this guy is begging us (the public, as representated by the state-sanctioned execution team) not to kill him, he’s helpless, no longer a threat to anyone, would be in prison the rest of his life without possibility of parole, and yet here we are taking his life. As I said before I think it’s a little barbaric. Perhaps deserved, but still perhaps uncivilized.

I’m sure I’ll keep going back and forth on the issue. I admire people who have strong convictions on the issue either way.

Yes yes. The world is a terrible place where people kill people and other people kill people who kill people after they catch them.

I support banning them to the Phantom Zone.

In Japan, people convicted of drunk driving are forced to drive with purple flashing license plates. I further suggest flashing T-shirts, jackets and umbrellas broadcasting the crime one has committed, given that the probability of the costs of Phantom Zone bannishings being prohibitive.

[quote=“Huang Guang Chen”]Those chemcials are merely anaesthetic agents. Nothing particularly toxic in there at all. Basically they give you an anaesthetic but without the airway and oxygen. They then load you up with potassium, which occurs naturally but in high doses can cause the electrical firing of the heart muscle to repolarise.

Nothing in there to harm anything anymore than mum getting ready to have her gall bladder removed.

HG[/quote]

Oh okay, thanks for the PSA. Now back to regular programming.

I also oppose the accidental (or deliberate) killing of non-combatants. It’s a major reason of why I oppose warfare in the first place.