Nazi paraphernalia on sale at Banqiao station?

It closed down some time ago. Previously it was in HiMall (same building as Showtime Cinema).

I’ve seen that shop and I’ve got a picture, there were flags from many countries and organizations past and present; including the confederate battle flag, Japan’s Rising Sun and many others, I saw 1 Nazi flag so.it wasn’t a Nazi memorabilia shop it was a shop not giving a dam about nothing but making money. Calling that or making it out to be a Nazi memorabilia shop is misleading. The most prominent flag in that shop was the Stars and Stripes which was a huge banner

I heard that (Nazi) germany still owes the ROC unpaid war bonds?

Thus you see people like the link below fly Nazi flags and have Nazi war bonds at hand.

http://www.epa.eu/human-interest-photos/war-curiosities-photos/taiwanese-protest-germany-s-alleged-refusal-to-reimburse-german-reichsmark-bonds-photos-53681887

it was a clothes shop. barely even a shop, more of a space filler. it was called SS something. so yeah not a memorabilia shop or anything but still offensive enough.

I didn’t find it offensive but surprised to see it in an “upmarket mall”. You’re right it wasn’t a shop it was kind of a designated area on the floor of the mall. I was surprised to see it there not surprised to see it in Taiwan so I snapped a shot. That kind of thing isn’t offensive to most people here just as most people in the west don’t know much about the nanking massacres. If they found it offensive then the owners would have got beaten up by now. JMHO

well it was taken down after causing a stir in the news. so someone was offended. funnily enough i know a chinese guy who has a fully kitted out nazi outfit. a resident of nanjing no less.

that place isn’t so upmarket either. its a cinema with some people scattered around selling shoes, clothes and food to eat in the cinema.

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Thanks for that. I been looking for six years for it.

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You finally found nazi paraphernalia on sale at Banqiao station?

well that was a hot take right off the bat in this thread man damn this is gonna be a good read

Eight years later… We went there! The needs of the one now far outweigh the needs of the many. Spock died in vain.

It’s a BIG station. Give him a break. :nerd_face:

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Well , it didn’t get worse really, but god it got frustrating especially with the battle of little big foreskin down the thread.

god i know im gravedigging but what a load of whataboutist rubbish.

We down south ain’t so intolerant! One guy in our government was Jewish! Oh, give me a minute, the foremans arrived… Oh, a slave escaped today? Send out the dogs, catch 'em, I can’t wait to make an example of him. How silly, wanting his freedom. So, where did we leave off? Oppression, right!

Also, who fucking cares about one guy. Grant without a doubt fucked up big time with his order 11 or whatever it was called exactly, but clearly you stopped reading about his engagement with Jewish America right then. This article by a historian who has actually studied these things can help get you up to speed if we really gotta do the whataboutist “but what about the Jews” dance here: The Redemption of Ulysses S. Grant

If one appointee is your evidence of the south wasn’t worse than the north, you’re going to need to start grabbing for hay bales instead of straw.

Note the dates:
Slavery made illegal and slaves emancipated in RI: 1843
The same in the Union generally : nominally, 1863, but illegal in most already
The CSA: Effectively, when it finally ate shit.

But I’m sure the 20-50 percent of the population of these states that were enslaved would certainly agree with your expert assement that they were indeed less oppressive than the union.

oh the hypercapitalist who cheers on the defeat of social democrat governments by far right parties is upset by when the irish people get taken advantage of by the invisible dick of the market? That’s cute.

one, the book is actually good and I can’t shit on u for that. But the rest is blah blah blah, are we still required to pretend that arguments to the effect of X party did this (insert time before party switch) are valid? It’s just stupid to make the democrats did X in Y year argument. Look at the maps and weep. No offense to later Goldwater, who realized that his platform essentially honored inequality before the law, but the only people desperately racist enough to vote for him at the time was his home state and the deep south. clear as rain to me.

and lastly, this all comes back to the question of: what, really, did the Confederate flag stand for? And the answer is objectively the right to continue making mad money via slave economies. State’s rights only matter insofar as they let the state own slaves. Lost Cause is just making excuses for that via causes that are nicer sounding than black slavery. The Union was far from perfect, but a simple think-through on this one makes it pretty damn clear it was, indeed, an oppressive regime, even if the Jews didn’t experience maybe as much anti-semitism (and this is assuming that… I figure if they didn’t, it’s because they probably participated in the same plantation lifestyle instead of being a fixture in metropolitan areas where the historic jewish stereotypes generally are easier to attach to them.).

Essentially this, and for very good reason.

And to be clear, I’m not for removing all traces of it. Schools? Rename em. Statues built way into Jim Crow? Topple em. But graveyards and other such landmarks deserve preservation. But down with the stupid flag. If you want to have a collection of the shit - whether it be Nazi, Confederate, etc. - cool, go for it, I just hope the collector is smart enough to realize the shit they collect is only interesting because it belongs to something that no longer exists, and that that is a good thing. Obviously can’t police the buyer, but the market for that kinda stupid shit will exist among stupid skinheads with or without the shop. I’d personally be happy to take their money for fake Nazi bullshit. One because them wearing it at protests n such is a great way to get their dumb assess outed as Nazis and fired, and two because no ethical consumption under capitalism…

this sounds mad fake. I’ve said the same things many a time and never got any such comment lmao. Literally whatever.

my man gone foreskin snowblind. totally lost the forest for the trees here. man can’t seemingly understand that we can stand against that shit and still not be pro-foreskin removal. He was so fixated it is actually funny. Man can’t get his mind off kids’ foreskins.

word. out yourselves, bigots, time to make u unemployable :smiley:

Personally I prefer my girls in police uniforms. Helps me understand the Republican worldview while they handcuff me and make me lick their boots.

finally someone has a coherent thought and points out the obvious in very clear language

jesus fucken christ this guy, it’s like talking to some modern users of this site and having to remind them that you’re not anti-semetic because you are of split mind on Israel-Palestine. And god FORBID they say anything about “corporate fascists” or some such nonsense. It blows my mind that he can’t tell that people here aren’t bending over backwards to embrace anti-circumcision because it’s by and large an irrelevant niche and honestly made up sounding issue brought up only becase of an originally pretty braindead post by TexMex.

skipped commentary on the rest because it wasn’t as exciting. fuck me i thought this gravedig was because the thread was consistently active over the years, now i realize i really done clowned.

Nice :blush:

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might add that never before have i been such a fan of police brutality. way better blue lives matter ad than the Punisher face on a thin blue line flag

What the fuck just happened?

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Love the 8 year gravedig! :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

All I am saying is that places such as Charleston were beacons of religious tolerance (for Huguenots, Jews, etc.) and that the Confederacy had some diverse Cabinet members such as Judah Benjamin, who legal brilliance is still acknowledged today with his legal books still widely used. And my historically correct observation that Northern left wing labour groups at the time in the 1850s before the Civil War (Democratic Party Locofocos factions) made alliances with the Southern planters in a partnership against the Northern Industrialists. Yip famous Locofocos supporters such as the poet Walt Whitman were partnering with John C Calhoun.

Maybe read a little more on the era before posting. I studied this shit for years.

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You really think Peronism is social democratic? Maybe national socialistic. Argentina needs shock treatment to put it back on the right track. One that stinky Eva (worshiped by Madonna and Hollywood scum), the military junta and Che-loving idiots have squandered over 70 years.

Milei is going to get innovative–even if he fails, better than their very corrupt elite.

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ok that all is good and fine but in no way significantly undermines the oppressive connotation of the csa flag.

which was the crux of the argument there, and having comparatively small urban centers of plurality doesn’t really balance it out. Generally tolerant as certain places were.

It’s not that the north is perfect, and bear in mind these groups like many workers rights oriented groups in the US are forced into positions of allies of convenience given that they usually don’t quite have the critical mass to make many of the changes. Nevermind the money part of the equation. Regardless of what forms of bigotry the North had, it wasn’t a state brought into existence for the preservation of what is quite possibly the worst and most specifically oppressive (not just war enemies; specifically black people or people of a specific amount of black blood) form of slavery history has ever seen. The confederacy was, despite all attempts to prove otherwise, essentially all centered around slavery. Doesn’t deny the failures of the Union, but at least it wasn’t established for them. Maybe with the exception of the engagements with the natives, as one incentive for breaking away was certainly getting more of that land. but a lot less direct than the CSA.

Referring to your Spain thread, this time. To be fair, it wasn’t the far right that time. Certainly be interested in the take on the Finnish election, I suppose. I must’ve forgotten about all the other elections worth celebrating since then. We’re not going to disagree on the particulars of Peronism being shitty, or Che being a very painfully mid leftist beyond combat. Doesn’t change that the Irish, Italians, Polish, Germans, etc. were generally just new fodder for capitalists. Easy, cheap labor, if you’re willing to piss off the Wasps and hire them. Or - dare I say it - the women!

awful awful awful i didn’t mean to really i thought this was active :smiley:

anyhow i knew it was a bit of a gravedig but fuck that that was way bad

I think you have a very elitist view of the Confederacy. It wouldn’t have lasted a year if it was just about slavery.

I think historiography bears me out on this. A majority of soldiers in the border states fighting for the Confederacy were certainly not fighting about slavery. They were fighting invaders of their land. Often such locales (some split between Union and Confederate sympathies) sided with whoever did not invade them. The yeoman farmer, the majority of the South’s troop strength, had no stake in slavery and certainly were not fighting for the rights of the Tidewater elites within the Confederacy. They were fighting because the Union invaded their farms, ate their livestock and plundered.

The Confederacy was for less central government and states’ rights. I don’t see this as oppressive. Was slavery evil? Absolutely and thank goodness for the Republicans. :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: But as with General Grant’s anti-Semitism or wage slavery in the North against Catholics (exemplified by Know Nothing Party etc.), the North was oppressive on many levels as well with its Yankee Nativism.

@cdn1234 I guess my issue is with blanket statements concerning either side. Slavery was bad, the British Empire emancipated before most nations but was highly sympathetic to the Confederacy given the mills. The North was highly oppressive as well and not tolerant on wage slavery or in political parties that were just as racist as the Confederacy (e.g., Know Nothings).