🇺🇸 Guam | Travel Horror Story: My Trip to Guam

Oh sure, steal my idea. :unamused:

(Thanks for the pics TM. Nice. Nice nice.)

Very nice review, Tigerman. Thanks!

Some questions I hope you or anyone will get around to answer:

1- Water temperature?

2- Scuba diving? Good or bad or average.

3- Cost of living? Cheap or expensive or average.

4- Food? Good or bad or average.

5- Budget accomodation… Available or not?

Sorry for using your horror vacation thread to get info, jdsmith.

Lei Gong

Hang on, I was led to believe that the place was inundated with Australian brown snakes. Okay they’re not poisonous, but definitely venomous where I come from!

Doh! So they’re not from Australia, but more likely the Admiralty island group, and apparently only mildy venomous. I feel somehow cheated.

HG

The temp at Guam is on about 85 degrees F all year… We’ve always found the water temp to be very comfortable… I know that isn’t very helpful, but, I don’t travel with a thermometer. You should note that there is a dry season and a rainy season…each lasting about 6 months. The dry season starts about now.

I’m scared of sharks, so I don’t dive. I hear tell the diving is good, at least. Better to ask one of the several divers here. Anyway, watch out for these monsters of the shallows:

The Picasso Trigger Fish:

They’re pretty to look at… but, these girls bite!

One nearly took my foot clean off:

Depends on where you stay and what you eat.

Good.

Available.

Do you know how RARE it is to even SEE a Picasso trigger fish? Much less get bitten by one?

Quit yer bitchin! :laughing:

My trip was a long time ago. I think the chances of going back are pretty good. Especially if this shitty weather keeps up. Flight time is closer than a drive to Kending.

Tigerman, your brother lives there??

Picasso Trigger fish wouldn’t bite you like that. Likely your leg brushed against it and triggered his barb or … Trigger. (Hey, that’s why they call 'em trigger fish!) These and other types trigger fish are very common in Hawaii … I used to catch one type with by (gloved) bare hands.

Brown Tree Snakes: They are generally nocturnal and less common in the urbanized tourist jungles where most visitors hang out. If you live in a residential area out in the brush you’ll see many many of them. Ugly bastards and yes, they are everywhere - just often unseen. Drive some of the smaller interior roads and you might catch a few crossing the road.

No. They bite. The females are protecting their nests.

A few of the triggerfish species can be quite aggressive during reproduction season. In particular Picasso triggerfish and titan triggerfish viciously defend their circular nests against any intruders, including scuba divers and snorkelers. Their territory extends in a cone shape from the nest to the surface, so swimming upwards puts one further into the fishes’ territory. A horizontal swim away from the nest site is the most sensible course of action when confronted by an angry triggerfish.

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Use caution whenever handling a triggerfish. They can inflict a nasty bite!

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On the very last dive, I saw a pair of scissors partially buried on the sandy floor. I reached out to pick it up, and was attacked by a 8" triggerfish! He drew blood, leaving a 6-toothed circular scar on the inside of my right index finger (between the index finger and third finger, right at the base).

and see this vicious attack

LOTS of these fish in Guam… Beautiful little beasties.

There are lots of these little devils in Guam.

Nah… he just likes to go there when he comes over here for a visit.

What? I thought it was interesting that you got cravings for the Wendy’s 99 cent menu Chili and Cheese Nachos, and thought perhaps you would elaborate further. For example, is there anything else you get a craving for? Mayonaise maybe, or peanuts?

I stand corrected …

Spent about a year hovering above the reef, day in and day out in Hawaii, tons of triggerfish around. I guess if you are not grabbing (catching w/ your hands) them or swallowing 'em whole perhaps you don’t need to worry about the 2" barb on their topside that lend their name.

And with a full wetsuit & gloves, perhaps I didn’t notice the bites!

Don’t need to grab at 'em… just inadvertantly or unknowingly enter the space they claim… they are fairly polite about it and give a bump warning at first… if you do not heed the warning (as I did not out of ignorance), they bite.

Apparently, its quite common for them to go after flippers.

There are lots of triggers our around Orchid Island. We saw their jaws up on the walls of the restaurant we art in. They have vicious looking teeth. I would not want to be on the receiving end.

This brought me a chuckle. I once went to Guam on a trip as a present from my ex gfriend. We rented a car and went for a short drive, because I got lost and ended up going round full circle in about twenty minutes. So I got a map. “Oh, for F’s sake why did a bother renting a car when we’ve just been round the entire island in twenty minutes?” followed, as I realized only when I got the map that not only was the damn place small, practically 1/3rd of it was army base and it only took twenty minutes to see everything. I felt miffed that I had rented a car for three days and I didn’t need one. I’m so stupid!
Guam is pretty much the dullest place I’ve ever been to. Its not just the small thing, but the ‘food’ was mostly American, the beaches only about as good as Kenting, which isn’t bad, but not worth the trip, and everyone says “Have a nice day,” which is every non American person’s idea of hell.

That’s a bit of an exaggeration.

I love wasting time in the hammocks.

Actually, its probably mostly Japanese and Korean… with lots of American.

How horrible!

Here’s some neat info re Guam’s geography

Mutley, it suits you. :laughing:

HG

If you want to just fall off the face of the earth for a time, islands like Saipan, Yap, Palau, Chuuk & Pohnapei are awesome places to really disappear into another world. (That world might be a nightmare in Chuuk on dry land, but that for another day.) To get to many of these islands one usually (not always) has to connect through Guam. Tinian, a small island near Saipan and the take-off point for Enola Gay (dropped the first atomic bomb on Japan), has an interesting casino … for the gambling types.

*Perhaps also of interest here: Many of these islands are also quite hard-up to attract and retain teachers given the isolation and low wages - low relative to the rest of the world. Of course quality of life is tough to value. If tropical paradise is your thing, could be worth looking into.

OK, it’s been decided that in bvetween Monday class and Saturday calss, in that no classez that is scheduled for Feb?-Feb? whatevr, I’m “allowed” to go as part of mine resaerch into the travel the world and learn English series, unrealated to Lonely Planet etc.

The only thing is I’d rather go to yap in that yap exhibits the more progressive fashion statement etc. and so wonder upon which part of loinder isle known as Guam etc, might one locate the moe Yapinian fashion statement, cough*?

Also, let it be known that for reasons unkown Costco has une sale dans le fine cognac, une bottle de le fine francais cognac zhi shi ba bai kuai qian le. Etc.

[quote=“bob”]OK, it’s been decided that in bvetween Monday class and Saturday calss, in that no classez that is scheduled for Feb?-Feb? whatevr, I’m “allowed” to go as part of mine resaerch into the travel the world and learn English series, unrealated to Lonely Planet etc.
The only thing is I’d rather go to yap in that yap exhibits the more progressive fashion statement etc. and so wonder upon which part of loinder isle known as Guam etc, might one locate the moe Yapinian fashion statement, cough*?
Also, let it be known that for reasons unkown Costco has une sale dans le fine cognac, une bottle de le fine francais cognac zhi shi ba bai kuai qian le. Etc.[/quote]

Keep yer hands where we’uns kin see 'em…

I’ve always enjoyed my times on Guam. Bad shit can happen pretty much anywhere. And rental car agencies are the most assuredly the last bastion of fascism still gouging…

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“Wake Up & die, Marine!”:
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