Here is a 7min Clip on youtube youtube.com/watch?v=fEJmcvTzYfo
I haven’t seen this documentary come up here yet. I think it might have just been released on the web.
Not sure what I think of it, but it’s bloody interesting.
Here is the full 90mins, high quality:
video.google.com/videoplay?docid … ries&hl=en
There are other versions of it that use less bandwidth:
video.google.com/videosearch?q=9 … ries&hl=en
Same old 9/11 conspiracy BS. How many people would it take to wire two of the tallest buildings in the world with persicion timed explosives in a weekend? More than a few, and I find it highly unlikely that all of them have kept completely silent about their involvement. It reminded me of the one I saw that claimed it was really a cruise missle that hit the Pentagon and in Penn. Funny how they couldn’t explain all the people who died on the planes and their crying relatives.
Watched it last night. An hour and a half’s worth of good viewing.
I’m not very political but I have my beliefs. I consider myself a good judge of bullshit. I can’t fathom that these heads of Islam are that fuckin stupid. I’m not a lefty and I support business as business and that’s why I see these videos as putting a shadow of a doubt in my mind. Simple as that.
Too much “bad Islam” propoganda and much more of the opposite supporting something darker than meets the eye. I realise the western media plays a huge role in harping the heart strings of the western worl in ‘our favour’ and although Muslims and their agenda seem to be playing the grey area in hopes of fucking with the Western world…I still don’t see many FACTS supporting that claim (Western) but many in the reverse(Islam/Muslim). Sad actually.
Before Fredsmith (Who I actually respect for his conviction the same way I do a pastor…heh) says that there is no court of law that convicts the Western establishment as guilty…then I say where is the proof as to otherwise? Because we say so? I’m not so sure. The facts from our own creative minds and supporting paperwork are pretty damning, don’t ya think?
I believe in business and money and if this is a scheme for the Western world to stay on top…then I wouldn’t be surprised at all.
I agree. I haven’t watched the video, but if it suggests that the buildings were blown up from within, I don’t get it. We all saw the planes hit the towers and explode into giant fireballs that quickly consumed the buildings and caused them to collapse. It was incredible, but perfectly plausible given that the jets had just taken off and were crammed full of jet fuel.
Does the video suggest that the jets didn’t hit the buildings? or didn’t cause giant fireballs? or those fireballs weren’t sufficient to cause the collapses? and the collapses were actually caused by explosives place in the towers beforehand? If that’s what they say it’s totally nuts and I don’t need to watch the video to confirm that – I already saw the event on video many times and can’t imagine how any reasonable person would question what we all saw.
But, I’d love to hear an explanation of the theory.
[quote=“Mother Theresa”]
But, I’d love to hear an explanation of the theory.[/quote]
Then I suggest you watch it.
I agree. I haven’t watched the video, but if it suggests that the buildings were blown up from within, I don’t get it. We all saw the planes hit the towers and explode into giant fireballs that quickly consumed the buildings and caused them to collapse. It was incredible, but perfectly plausible given that the jets had just taken off and were crammed full of jet fuel.
Does the video suggest that the jets didn’t hit the buildings? or didn’t cause giant fireballs? or those fireballs weren’t sufficient to cause the collapses? and the collapses were actually caused by explosives place in the towers beforehand? If that’s what they say it’s totally nuts and I don’t need to watch the video to confirm that – I already saw the event on video many times and can’t imagine how any reasonable person would question what we all saw.
But, I’d love to hear an explanation of the theory.[/quote]
well, if you’d love to hear an explanation, that is what the link is for. There is no doubt the planes crashed into the buildings. What is questioned is: was that really enough to bring them down?
I know, I know, it’s not fair to criticize a video I haven’t seen. But I don’t presently have 90 minutes to spare, maybe just 90 seconds. How about a brief synopsis, then I’ll view the film later?
Try the 7 min version. The first link.
It mentions nothing about it being organised by Mossad to force an invansion of Arab countries. Or that is was a plot by train companies, that are all Arab-owned, to reduce air travel.
Try the 7 min version. The first link.[/quote]
Ok, I watched it and I think it’s ridiculous and an insult to those who died in the buildings for them to concoct such a wacko conspiracy theory.
ERGO, the Bush family obviously carried out a nefarious scheme to blow up the buildings
Aside from the lunacy of such a theory, it fails to explain the obvious occurrences that we all observed. If you feel there’s the remotest chance that the above theory could be plausible, I suggest you watch these:
First plane hitting
youtube.com/watch?v=R0RdNrZ6CQ8&NR
Second plane hitting
youtube.com/watch?v=QlrzdhvG … ed&search=
and
youtube.com/watch?v=GmxlMsIp … ed&search=
and
youtube.com/watch?v=L45-muEx … ed&search=
Explosives clearly weren’t needed. Those planes obviously knocked down the towers. Or did I miss something?
Not that I necessarily believe any of the conspiracy theories, the full length one is a lot more interesting. It deals (in detail) with what is required to down a steel-framed building. Certainly from an engineering point of view, I found it extremely interesting.
Nothing to do with whether or not the planes hit the building. That has never been in doubt of course.
It’s nonsense. Plain and simple.
They weren’t planes, they were missiles fired by the US Air Force, the planes were added in with standard Hollywood special effects. Why do you think no planes where found ? Don’t say you believe the official story as spun by the US government ? Has anyone seen any of these “planes” ? I didn’t think so…
[quote=“Mother Theresa”]
Explosives clearly weren’t needed. Those planes obviously knocked down the towers. Or did I miss something?[/quote]
Well I guess their thesis is that explosives were needed as the buildings were designed to withstand such an event.
Love the calm reasoned voice narrating over such charged visuals. Unfortunately I think it has the opposite effect of what was intended - it makes the story less believable.
The problem with videos like this is not that they are implausible but that you never see a debate on their claims from multiple viewpoints. So the effect is more data but little in the way of good information - just like the idiot sound bites from the news organizations they criticize.
Besides, 911 never happened, is David Coperfield can make the Statue of Libery disappear, then the US Goverment can easily make the WTO disappear. How do you explain the fact that the thousands of people who they said died, never existed before 911 ?
Alright.
What about WTC 7?
Clearly a controlled demolition. The lease holder, Silverstein is on tape as saying he told the authorities to “Pull it”.
This was 8 hrs after the towers came down, so how did the building get rigged for the demo?
[quote=“Truant”]Alright.
What about WTC 7?[/quote]Termites
[quote=“Big Fluffy Matthew”][quote=“Truant”]Alright.
What about WTC 7?[/quote]Termites[/quote]
I wouldn’t listen to BFM. He doesn’t even exist.
Why? No one is saying the towers didn’t come down. What about the survivors that talk about hearing explosions in the basement before the planes hit? Or the footage of firemen that risked their lives (shown in footage in the lobby answering the first plane hit )where there is clearly shown mable facing and windows blown right off the walls? Do you think it’s insulting to them to say what they saw was bullshit?
[quote]
ERGO, the Bush family obviously carried out a nefarious scheme to blow up the buildings
Aside from the lunacy of such a theory, it fails to explain the obvious occurrences that we all observed. If you feel there’s the remotest chance that the above theory could be plausible, I suggest you watch these:
First plane hitting
youtube.com/watch?v=R0RdNrZ6CQ8&NR
Second plane hitting
youtube.com/watch?v=QlrzdhvG … ed&search=
and
youtube.com/watch?v=GmxlMsIp … ed&search=
and
youtube.com/watch?v=L45-muEx … ed&search=
Explosives clearly weren’t needed. Those planes obviously knocked down the towers. Or did I miss something?[/quote]
There are many, many clips of the planes hitting. That is not in doubt. What is being questioned (amoungst other things) is: Was that collision to each tower enough to bring them down? What were the explosions heard by people before the planes hit, and just before the towers eventually came down?