Wow, some GREAT responses, and the initial perusal already has me thinking. Some initial thoughts: Yep, I agree that western culture is dying also (errrm, I’ll never forget the “art” installation at the Seattle Art museum that consisted entirely of bathtubs and toilets piled up, or the time my Uncle’s father, a relatively well known photographer, set his camera on a trash bin in the middle of a courtyard at the Denver Art Museum and was curtly asked by the guard to “not put his camera on the artwork”…
This WAS a genuine request. With the death of western culture, there are pockets of hope, some wildly creative and expressive people…ermm…most half-cracked, and about 10% half-baked, hehe. That’s what I haven’t FOUND here, at least among the Chinese (I have found it in some Aboriginals).
I don’t LIVE in an urban area, and in all honesty, I’m starting to think that is why I’m getting to the point of suggesting scuttling the island and letting the volcanos start anew
. SOME of the hope I’ve seen has been on occasion in Taipei, but when I tell people that I have 200 students and exactly ONE of them is creative AND can think, and about 10 are EITHER creative OR can think, that leaves 189 that sit there waiting to be given the answers (its the schools, I know it is…I was told once by the principal of one of 'em that “it isn’t the school’s job to teach, its the buxi ban’s job to teach.”)(and also the parents, they went to these same schools, and have NO concept of what their own kids are capable of).
JDSmith, no…I can’t cut them slack, not when they are using indentured servitude and human trafficing to fuel the economy, and not when what i view as a backwater 3rd world culture puts on airs and claims to be the center of the known universe because of some alleged 3500-5000 years of “history.” The reality is that Chinese with means are abandoning the sinking ship in droves, if you people think I’m vitriolic, you should talk with my wife and a few people who have thrown in the towel and climbed down the anchor chain. I’ll cut the culture slack when it cuts ME slack.
Remember folks, I first came here in 1989, and since then have spent…ermm…geez, I’ve lost count…11 years? 12 years?? I honestly would have to look at my passport to figure it out, I’ve gone through the Taiwan apologist phase not once, but twice. I haven’t posted the reality of what happens when a foreigner gets beyond the “He’s a guest and we can still pull the wool over his eyes” phase.
And, I’m seriously looking for something worthwhile. Again, there are a HUGE number of individuals. In fact, with the school move, I can list our electrician as one of the most incredible people I’ve known and worked with. After I bit the security company, they straighened up and did REALLY good work (errrm, a really really bad way to start a job is by spitting betelnut on the floor of a classroom full of kids, its a SURE way to get a rabid foreigner to rip you new orfices).
Mucha, interesting point. So, your premise is that a newly industrialized culture is expected to dispose of all creativity and culture? Maybe Taiwan never had it, I dunno. But, if you’ve been to Thailand, its there…The Philippines, its there…Korea? Yeppers. Japan…ermm, in a big way. It HAS occurred to me that maybe Taiwan has been the backwater of China, under Japanese or Dutch control…etc…etc…for so long that there really is no indiginous culture other than the Aboriginal culture. I’d really love to find someone who has been here since the '60s, the only person I knew who had been here that long died in the early 90s at close to 90 years old, he showed up in Taiwan in the '50s I believe (wonder if there are any really, really old Catholic priests wandering around, they’d know). My views and the sincerity of my looking for something worthwhile other than unreliable electronic equipment and worsening Chinese food are two different things :-)).
Interesting point Namahottie, politics as culture. If that’s the case, I wouldn’t be surprised if it all explodes into civil war at some point, but yeah, there is a VERY different flavor and feel to politics here (I don’t get politically involved here, I figure I’ve got more than enough to whine about in the U.S., lol).
TomHill is officially nominated for sainthood, that’s EXACTLY what I was looking for, once this school move is done I think it may be time to attend some of them there event thingies.
BW, yep. You quoted me right. Unfortunately, the quality of Mooncakes have dropped in the interest of bigger profit margins, I rarely eat them anymore. The tea houses? Aside from two in Hsinchu, I don’t bother. Yeah, the tea is good, but the atmosphere has been sacrificed to save money in most of the new ones (but the two in Hsinchu, holee crap, pry me outta there with a crowbar).
Kids without helmets on scooters? You hit a nerve there. I suppose that’s culture in the same way that gun violence is American culture. Seeing parents helmeted on scooters with helmetless kids only reminds me that to many people, kids are simply retirement investments and replacable. Even if not on a conscious level.
I’ve actually tried to explain gain, etc. etc. to people in their PAs, but I usually get the “You just don’t understand Chinese culture” attitude, people don’t actually WANT help. Its one of the reasons I left music, when I was performing, everyone is an Imperial Expert, especially if they have 5 minutes “experience” and the shame of having the Ferigner with 30 years experience in theater, live music, lighting, etc. say “errrm, this is a 20w tube amp, it needs to be miced” is just too much, lol. Or, the shame of the ferigner saying “I asked you to print my photos without ANY corrections, why did you ignore me? And I asked for bordered prints. And I asked you to print the ones that are blurry, they are motion studies, but you ignored me on all these points.” I’ve learned to not offer help, as it is usually an affront to people.
Yes, you’re right. I DO value my wife. I also value a number of people, the single common denominator is that they’ve spent long periods of time abroad (not just the west, a friend of mine spent 6 years working in Japan somehow, don’t recall the details). The other interesting common denominator, is that 100% of these people are desperate to get out of Taiwan (errrm, 1-3 years for us, seriously, I figure that over 1/4 of my life is enough).
I was referring to something culturally of value. Not the attempts to “out cheap,” but things of value.
Monster, SURE, there are STUNNING women here. There are stunning women everywhere. There are (to avoid the backlash of being called sexist) handsome men here, and everywhere. There are beautiful people anywhere in the world. I’m at the “age” where I love ALL of the teachers in my school dearly, errrm…any ONE of them could be my daughter, lol, and I’m always grumbling that one of them needs better tastes in boyfriends, lol (the others who have 'em have picked incredible kids as Significant Others
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My gonads are just fine, but…ermm…I’m of the age where I don’t think with them anymore
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Fortigurn, yes. Errrm. I’m not exactly chomping at the bit to end up back in the U.S… There are other places that appeal to me, however my wife has a singular obsession with Seattle that I can’t seem to get rid of, lol. I’m really studying the bait and switch techniue (awww, come on dear, Samoa starts with S, it MUST be the same as Seattle). My honest opinion these days is starting to be that global civilization is on a serious decline, and that maybe I really oughtta find a deserted island or small patch of antarctica, I hear Penguin culture is quite progressive…
Enigma, you’re reminding me that I really DO need to get back up to the Aboriginal areas. I haven’t wandered up there for a few years, and maybe that’s where I’m starting to lose it. I think THIS concept (and the link from TomHill) are just the medicine the doctor ordered :-).
Mucha (errm, can you tell I’m going though these in order in another window?). VERY good points on western “traditions” lol. Errrm, you are talking to someone who is not, nor was he raised, a Christian. My Christmas tradition often involved working tripple shifts (errm, one Christmas, 48 consecutive hours at a radio station) to allow people who had emotional attachments to it to take the time off, lol. Haloween is simply my favorite holiday (always has been, lol), and the history of that holiday is really fascinating (some of the modern mythology…errm, off topic, never mind)…
Seeker, yeah…I know my post and views will be unpopular. That’s NEVER phased me (errrm, I danged near got death threats from the American right wing back in the 80s over some editorials I wrote, lol…). The thing is, I find that MANY people hold the same views, most have been here a decade or more…the apologists tend to have been here 2-3, maybe 5 years at the longest. There are exceptions on both sides of the coin (the Vitriolic Foreigners and The Taiwan Apologists, hehehe…nothing like polarizing people for the sake of argument). I saw the first 10 minutes of that DSC show, then had to go clean up a mess made by my physicist cat, who is constantly testing gravity. The ONE thing that I howled about is Taiwan’s claim to genetic engineering fame (different show or article): Irridescent green pigs, now THAT is useful to humanity (great for late night BBQs if they can get the meat to glow in the dark).
Henrik, THAT IS THE ROOT OF MY FRUSTRATION!!! Taiwan/China IS just getting out of its childhood years, yet people put on airs and openly abuse foreiners because we are viewed as sub-human (the culture tends to lump hominids into two groups, “people” (Chinese) and “other” (foreigners). Over the next 12-18 months, I may post pieces of a project I’m working on, but considering some of the research I’ve been doing, the entire culture is in a 100% indefensible position (unless there are some major legal changes, which is the first step to fundimental cultural change)(which is why I’m doing this project/research, I know way, way more than I wish I did, and if I could crawl back into my shell and forget much of what I know, I would).
FANTASTIC responses, thank you all. I’ve definitely got some good directions to go in, I’m honestly wanting to photograph some positive things, and have some good directions (this other project is so seriously disturbing and depressing that I have GOT to find something to balance it, or simply leave the island for a few weeks every few months or risk institutionalization). TomHill’s website is a GREAT start, as is a now planned trek up into the mountains in a couple of weeks :-).
And those of you who live in Taipei, count your blessings. Out here in the hinterlands, life is…ermm…different…
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