Aborigines: No Porn Or Alcohol; You're Raping Your Own Kids

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[quote]CANBERRA, Australia - Australia’s prime minister announced plans Thursday to ban pornography and alcohol for Aborigines in northern areas and tighten control over their welfare benefits to fight child sex abuse among them.

Some Aboriginal leaders rejected the plan as paternalistic and said the measures were discriminatory and would violate the civil rights of the country’s original inhabitants. But others applauded the initiative and recommended extending the welfare restrictions to Aborigines in other parts of the country.

Prime Minister John Howard was responding to a report last week that found sexual abuse of children to be rampant in indigenous communities in the Northern Territory. The report said the abuse was fueled by endemic alcohol abuse, unemployment, poverty and other factors causing a breakdown in traditional society.

“This is a national emergency,” Howard told Parliament. “We’re dealing with a group of young Australians for whom the concept of childhood innocence has never been present.”[/quote]
news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070621/ap_ … aborigines

Uhm, is this, uh,legal?

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It’s timed to deflect criticism for Australia’s appaling record of aboriginal abuse after a policeman was freed by a jury for murdering an aboriginal man just yesterday.

A lot more discussion on this here

forumosa.com/taiwan/viewtopi … 5&start=40

HG

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[quote=“Huang Guang Chen”]It’s timed to deflect criticism for Australia’s appaling record of aboriginal abuse after a policeman was freed by a jury for murdering an aboriginal man just yesterday.

A lot more discussion on this here

forumosa.com/taiwan/viewtopi … 5&start=40

HG[/quote]
Yeah, I just saw that thread and thought, “Hmm, might I be late with this gem o’ the press?”

I might.

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Jump right in, the water is fetid.

HG

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Um, is this, uh,legal?[/quote]
Alcohol is banned in several aboriginal villages in Taiwan (Smangus is one of them), and (printed) porn in Taiwan is virtually non-existent.

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Um, is this, uh,legal?[/quote]
Alcohol is banned in several aboriginal villages in Taiwan (Smangus is one of them), and (printed) porn in Taiwan is virtually non-existent.[/quote]
Yeah, but banned by the federal government? And printed pron is banned nationwide, not just in aboriginal communities, right?

This just seems like saying, “Hey no more for YOU guys. You’re making us all look bad.”

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I blame the DPP administration.

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And of course, as we have become accustomed, you’d be wrong.

HG

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I thought they’d all be busy teaching fat British kids how to catch food…

On the bright side, the fat British kids may finally get laid… :smiley:

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Bans on alcohol in places like Smangus are imposed by the village elders themselves, not the gubmint. I believe it’s the same in many Aboriginal villages in Oz, too.
That seems fine to me. What isn’t is fuckwads like Howard imposing a probably unenforceable ban on a sector of society for no reason other that to attempt to make a political gain or haul his sorry murder-condoning administration out of a tight spot.

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Sandman has the nail right under the hammer.

Any move by Howard has to be carefully considered in the light of scheming politics and saving his own arse.

And much of the stuff he went on about in his “glorious address to the nation” is either:
already in the legislation (and failing as its full of loopholes or unenforceable)
or racially discriminatory (referring to particular ‘places’ meaning ‘aboriginals’ as no one else lives there)
or a throwback to failed policies of segregation and misguided missionary mentality outlawed since the early 1970s

The bonus to Howard of this re-election-minded policy is twofold:
It is cheap (basically cost free as the same level of resources will be used, rather than the far more expensive path of providing education, health, and employment so they can live a meaningful life and avoid alcoholism and drug abuse by having a useful alternative life offered)
It is handy to divert attention from the fact that this cancer has prospered under his watch. not surprisingly, as he was responsible for gutting the very departments on a federal (directly) and state (indirectly by tying funding to the states to particular directions) level that would have been able to prevent this situation from worsening in the first place. But no, he appaears to have no idea of the concept of a stitch in time saving nine.

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The “dry” aboriginal communities have no grog because elders or the women have requested it. Of course, some residents are exempt. Now complicating this issue is that for isolated communities like Ngukurr, slipping out for a crafty is something like 200km away. Now you have a permt, grog, the abos want it, and you can sell it to them at a considerable mark up. Alternatively the guys delivering the grog to the permit holders stop outside the community and sell grog from the back of their cars, again at a considerable mark up. Both happen frequently.

[quote]Residents fight for dry community
There have been angry scenes at an Aboriginal community in the Northern Territory that is fighting for a total ban on all alcohol.
Traditional owners at Ngukurr in Arnhem Land have become increasingly hostile towards white workers including police, who are the only people allowed to drink.

A majority of residents recently voted to end the 20-year-old permit system and wants the Liquor Commission to declare the community completely dry. Matters came to a head when the commission visited for a public meeting yesterday.

Like so many Indigenous communities, Ngukurr has long struggled to deal with the scourge of alcohol and the despair of many erupted at an outdoor meeting with the Northern Territory Liquor Commission. Alcohol is officially banned at Ngukurr except for 17 permit holders, who are all white. Police, teachers and health workers are allowed to drink at home, while even Ngukurr’s traditional owners face arrest and charges if they are caught with a single can of beer.

Anyone can apply for a permit but Indigenous applications are invariably vetoed by the council or police. Many residents, including council president David Daniels, resent what they say is an unfair and discriminatory system.

“How come there’s one law for the white people and one law for the Aborigines - white people have the permit, Aborigines haven’t got the permit,” he said.

Last month, in a ballot coinciding with the Northern Territory election, a majority of Ngukurr voters supported a blanket ban on grog and an end to all permits. [/quote]

Perhaps someone should tell Bushie that Australia’s committment to the war on terror is on hold while our soldiers are busy scanning abo computers for porn - yes that was suggested - and manning roadblocks for sly grog.

Not one journalist in the Oz domestic media has questioned this. Unbelievable!

In other news, I’m almost pleased poor old Geiorge isn’t around to hear this crap today.

Warumpi band frontman farewelled
The man who is the subject of the song My Island Home has been given a big farewell at Elcho Island, 500 kilometres east of Darwin. Dubbed ‘the black Mick Jagger’, Warumpi band lead singer George Rurrambu died at his island home 12 days ago just short of his 51st birthday.

Video of a young George banging boomerangs and singing the Warrumpi classic - Jailanguru Pakarnu (Out From Jail).

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Is genocide their game, or fuck the abos, we got an election to win?

Thank god for the ABC. Of course Howard’s “battlers” won’t be tuning into this.

[quote]http://abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/06/22/1958939.htm]More suicides, more violence predicted under abuse plan
Suicide and violence will rise in Aboriginal communities under the new Government regime, an expert has warned
Professor Judy Atkinson from Southern Cross University says she was stunned to hear of plans to freeze welfare payments and ban pornography and alcohol from Aboriginal communities in the Northern Territory.

She says the Government has not thought through the consequences of its strategy to only target Indigenous communities.

“Some of the things that I know will happen in response to this- we will have an increase of violence, we will have an increase of suicide and suicide attempts,” she said.

“There will be greater feelings of despair and we can’t do it ourselves in our communities.”[/quote]

So it buggers the question, just what experts were involved in this emergency decision?

[quote]Indigenous reforms 'duplicate existing laws’
The Northern Territory Police Association says the Federal Government’s Indigenous reforms duplicate laws that already exist.

Yesterday, the Prime Minister announced plans to introduce alcohol prohibition on Aboriginal land as part of a wide range of measures to battle child sexual abuse.

John Howard unveiled plans for compulsory health checks of Indigenous children and new bans on alcohol and pornography on Aboriginal land.

The Government also plans to boost police numbers and quarantine welfare payments so they are spent on essentials.

But the association says the Government’s plans to increase police numbers in remote communities is unrealistic.

The association’s president, Vince Kelly, says alcohol bans already operate.

“At the moment, almost every Aboriginal community in the Northern Territory has significant alcohol restrictions,” he said.

"What the Federal Government has effectively announced is duplication of law that’s already in place at the moment.

“There is really nothing new.”[/quote]

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Experts? Who needs to listen to the advice of so-called ‘experts’ to fashion govt policy? we simply listen to the polls… and to that good-ole Howard ‘gut feeling’.

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Drunken nonsense removed.