Alaska Governor Sarah Palin - McCain's choice for VP

To those who believe human life begins at conception, abortion is the taking of an innocent human life, therefore abortion is just as evil as any other form of murder. And those people tend to get pretty wound up about that issue, oversimplifying it, and completely neglecting any possibility of rational concerns on the other side of the debate – both sides do this.

There’s a reason some things are controversial – it’s because there’s something reasonable to be said on both sides of the issue. But anyway, back to Palin…

To those who believe human life begins at conception, abortion is the taking of an innocent human life, therefore abortion is just as evil as any other form of murder. And those people tend to get pretty wound up about that issue, oversimplifying it, and completely neglecting any possibility of rational concerns on the other side of the debate – both sides do this.

There’s a reason some things are controversial – it’s because there’s something reasonable to be said on both sides of the issue. But anyway, back to Palin…[/quote]
Are you smarter than her too?

Palin got rejected by Oprah. She will not book Oprah until after the elections…

A subtle form of racial discrimination, or a private citizen choosing how she wishes to use her status and her show?

[quote=“ac_dropout”]Palin got rejected by Oprah. She will not book Oprah until after the elections…

A subtle form of racial discrimination, or a private citizen choosing how she wishes to use her status and her show?[/quote]
Why is that racist?

NO light bigger than OP!

[quote=“ac_dropout”]Palin got rejected by Oprah. She will not book Oprah until after the elections…

A subtle form of racial discrimination, or a private citizen choosing how she wishes to use her status and her show?[/quote]

Oprah is supporting and stomping for Obama, so why would she have Palin on her show? DUUUUH.

Told you so. :whistle:

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Told you so. :whistle:[/quote]

Sure but her first day on the trail showed otherwise. While she won’t talk to the “Washington elite” :unamused: cameras showed her rolling into her first campaign stop greet by cheering middle-aged women. You’d think she got hit with the Oprah effect…

But no one asks these questions when it is a male candidate. So interesting that McGovernite liberal Democrat elitists such as Bradlee and Quinn are really showing their patriarchal establishment overtones. How hypocritical indeed, especially for Sally. Then again, if she really had to compete on skills and merit, she definitely wouldn’t have made it to the top. Bradlee met her at a toga party and was soon shagging her. :smiling_imp: Her career really took off after that and especially after their marriage. That should say it all shouldn’t it? For all her liberal pretensions and working woman facade, Quinn is a fake. And Americans in the heartland can spot this phoniness a mile away and it will hurt the Obama ticket (full of elitists with the same pretensions).

Anyways, although I often disagree with Susan Estrich’s politics (although she did endorse Hillary this time around), I’ve always admired her intellect and her tough-as-nails brand of feminism (she reminds me a lot of my mother). She has some great comments for people criticizing Palin for supposedly neglecting the family duties.

And for the liberals on Forumosa who mentioned she should be at home taking care of the kids, shame on you. You definitely don’t bring up this issue for male candidates. Really progressive. Get into the 21st Century :smiling_imp: :smiling_imp:

That’s a good point Chewy- a man would not have had to face those same questions.
The problem is that for years on the religious right pompous gasbags like James Dobson and Phyllis Schlafly have been pontificating about how feminists have been taking women out of their homes and putting their careers above their families, leading to problems like, oh, out-of-wedlock teen pregnancy.

Now, suddenly, that’s a great idea- if you’re a Republican.

Yeah, but Jon Stewart invited Newt Gingrich to his show, and Newt showed up. It’s always fun to watch them spar.

[quote=“MikeN”]That’s a good point Chewy- a man would not have had to face those same questions.
The problem is that for years on the religious right pompous gasbags like James Dobson and Phyllis Schlafly have been pontificating about how feminists have been taking women out of their homes and putting their careers above their families, leading to problems like, oh, out-of-wedlock teen pregnancy.

Now, suddenly, that’s a great idea- if you’re a Republican.[/quote]

Yeah, but James Dobson and Phyllis Schafly are hardly representative of most Republicans. Bradlee and Quinn, on the other hand, are quintessential members of the Washington media and political establishment and their liberal Democrat views are considered pretty mainstream. Scary that they would have such attitudes against working women and political involvement :frowning: Think these sort of opinions will play well with Reagan Democrats, soccer moms in the suburbs, and feminist Hillary supporters? No sir.

Movie posters seem to be in.

Pastor: GOP may be downplaying Palin’s religious beliefs

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Palin’s former pastor says he has no doubt her religious beliefs will influence her decision making when it comes to government policy. Regarding her desire to build an Alaskan pipeline and explore for oil in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, McGraw told CNN, “Sarah knows that in Genesis, God creates the world and it’s very good and that we’re supposed to be caretakers in terms of not destroying the environment, so there’s no way that Sarah is going to exploit or damage the Alaska tundra in the name of getting gas if she doesn’t have to.”[/quote]

[quote]
Speaking of the troops in Iraq, Palin says on the video, "“Pray for our military men and women who are striving do to what is right. Also for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending them out on a task that is from God. That’s what we have to make sure that we’re praying for – that there is a plan, and that plan is God’s plan.” Video Watch Palin speak at her former church »

Her campaign says she doesn’t mix her faith with government business. But Palin did ask her audience to pray for $30 billion natural gas pipeline she is on a mission to build in Alaska. In the video Palin says, “I think God’s will has to be done in unifying people and companies to get that gas pipeline built. So pray for that … I can do my job there in developing my natural resources. But all of that doesn’t do any good if the people of Alaska’s heart is not good with God.”[/quote]

[quote]ANCHORAGE - Gov. Tony Knowles recently signed legislation protecting victims of sexual assault from being billed for tests to collect evidence of the crime, but one local police chief said the new law will further burden taxpayers.

The governor signed House Bill 270, sponsored by Rep. Eric Croft, D-Anchorage, outside the Sexual Assault Response Team (SART) exam room at Alaska Regional Hospital. In attendance at the signing were members of victims advocate groups, law enforcement agencies and legislators.
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The new law makes it illegal for any law enforcement agency to bill victims or victims insurance companies for the costs of examinations that take place to collect evidence of a sexual assault or determine if a sexual assault did occur.

We would never bill the victim of a burglary for fingerprinting and photographing the crime scene, or for the cost of gathering other evidence, Knowles said. Nor should we bill rape victims just because the crime scene happens to be their bodies.

While the Alaska State Troopers and most municipal police agencies have covered the cost of exams, which cost between $300 to $1,200 apiece, [b]the Wasilla police department does charge the victims of sexual assault for the tests.

Wasilla Police Chief Charlie Fannon does not agree with the new legislation, saying the law will require the city and communities to come up with more funds to cover the costs of the forensic exams.[/b][/quote]

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That would be Sarah Palin appointee Charlie Fannon, carrying out policy under Mayor Palin

[quote]During John McCain’s 1986 campaign for the Senate, he told reporters the following joke, originally reported by the Tucson Sun:

Did you hear the one about the woman who is attacked on the street by a gorilla, beaten senseless, raped repeatedly and left to die? When she finally regains consciousness and tries to speak, her doctor leans over to hear her sigh contently and to feebly ask, ‘Where is that marvelous ape?’

No, John. I hadn’t heard that one.

When his campaign was asked about it recently, the response was “That’s just McCain being McCain.”[/quote]

sillypumas.wordpress.com/2008/08 … -be-funny/

Sounds like John and Sarah would get along famously:

“Hey, didja hear the one about the bitch who was so dumb that she got raped and couldn’t afford to pay for the evidence?”

Nasty personal attack by Obama. I’m sure this is really winning over the Hillary voters. But hey, he’s bringing a new style to politics, right?

Nasty personal attack? But it’s all in your political mind. Is there really any indication this metaphorical pig is Pailin and not McCain’s blabbering about change? Really?

HG

A true Muslim wouldn’t make a joke about a pig.
Someone said when Obama was walking off stage and down the hall, he scratched his ass. That was a dirty dig at McCain.
Clean campaign my ass.

Nice racist attack from the college Republicans.

[quote]ALLENTOWN – The leader of a statewide group of college Republicans has been forced to resign after posting racially insensitive comments about Barack Obama on the Internet.

Adam LaDuca, 21, former executive director of the Pennsylvania Federation of College Republicans, wrote on his Facebook page in late July that Obama has “a pair of lips so large he could float half of Cuba to the shores of Miami (and probably would.)”

LaDuca, who had previously called Martin Luther King Jr. a “pariah” and a “fraud,” also wrote: “And man, if sayin’ someone has large lips is a racial slur, then we’re ALL in trouble.”[/quote]
At least they’re not getting away with it.

What an idiot. And his defense, that it was pretty much the same thing as making fun of McCain’s hair or Bush’s ears? :unamused: Not the swiftest arrow in the quiver over there at Kutztown University…

Question for you though, Dr. McCoy: After all the recent discussion here in the IP forum about calling whole groups racists based on the actions of certain people within them, were you making a joke with the way you chose to characterize this story? (It’s sometimes very hard to tell with you what is sarcasm and what is not.)

“Nice racist attack from college Republicans :ponder:

“At least they’re not getting away with it.” :s

What happened here?

(1) This LaDuca kid makes a post on his Facebook page; and then
(2) As a group, the college Republicans come out against it and force the kid to resign.

“College Republicans denounce racist remark and throw the guy who said it out of his job”, would have been a more accurate way to describe it, right?

Please tell me you were making a joke here, Doc.