Any speculation on when/if mask mandates will be lifted

You can do that by spending a bit too long in the sun. I did it last year at Keelung train station after a few hours walking around Heping Island Park (I must have caught Keelung’s three hours of sunshine that year).

The staff didn’t care of course, although I was quite visibly red by that point so it might have been obvious I was just sunburnt rather than plague-ridden.

I did it once at footy by wearing a beanie in the sun. Didn’t really count though.

https://tw.news.yahoo.com/疫情趨緩防疫將鬆綁-陳時中透露︰運動很快可免戴口罩-075520327.html

It says Chen Shih Chung announces that they plan to relax the mask mandate for sports.

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Jesus. We haven’t worn masks at footy for months. :astonished:

The part of the first date where, after having chatted for two hours, you get a bite to eat and she takes off her mask :grimacing:
(tho maybe she’s thinking the same thing…)

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It makes me think I have never seen the face of some people I interact with daily (and vice versa).
What a surprise it will be!

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Masks have improved my facial recognition skills. I recognise quite a few students just by their eyes.

I’m surprised by so many people who look ‘pass-able’ with mask on just to see them without masks become the zombi version of what I had imagined they look like. I never knew mouths and lower face could make such a difference. What they say and I had believed about eyes are the ones that make the statement. Man, what a lie that is!

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Are all the 3D masks KF94? I was worried about buying masks that would look like KF94 in terms of shape and fit, but would use cheaper and more porous materials that would be useless against the virus.

Factually incorrect. I can confirm I am ugly and I don’t like masks.

Every time I see the thread title, I think, ‘Yes, yes there is’.

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Ok, Henry Cavill, I hear you.

I know what you mean. But sometimes it goes the other way. And then, wow!

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I find both types of surprise push my feelings about the person’s appearance to the extreme. But the effects seem to wear off after a while.

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I agree with you. There is no way I would get tested in a place like that due to the punishment that could ensue. Nearly everyone I know, including myself, have had Covid at least once. I even had it before vaccines were available. TW seems like an incredibly fear ridden society and it seems to be significantly impacting their ability to think about things logically.

Are they using emergency powers to do all of this or is there just nothing in the constitution there to prevent them from limiting people’s movement, livelihoods, etc? Do people (including foreigners) have any rights there at all regarding being detained like this or forced to get tested? Genuinely curious.

TBH I would say not. I can definitely see the madness taking hold in little events here and there, but it isn’t fear as such. It’s more like religious fervour.

Taiwanese people are fairly compliant, but they’re simultaneously quite distrustful of authority. There’s a lot of grumbling in private.

I wish they would be more open about their distrust then. Because maybe it would force the authorities to change their covid zero approach.

Except that what he’s written is wrong and overly simplistic. Taiwan is not a low trust society anymore and there are a wide range of complex opinions ranging from everything. There are people who trust. There are people who don’t trust. There are people who do like the government’s handling and people who do not like it. It would be biased and wrong to suggest that Taiwanese people think one way.
The government experiments with their covid policy and then gets a feel for public opinion. Taiwan and its public will open its borders when it wants to. The government listens to the people here.

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I wasn’t suggesting that. Obviously, societies are not homogeneous. I was suggesting that the problems that are occurring here are not blindly accepted by everyone, and because of Taiwan’s history a significant number of people - those over 50, let’s say - have very good reason to be skeptical of the motives of politicians.

They do and they don’t. They’ve done pretty much what was done in Canada - whip people up into a hysterical frenzy, and then poll their opinions.

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This is what you said.

There is no grumbling in private because people are allowed to protest and speak their minds. People do. You’re assuming they’re grumbling in private. This was an overly simplistic assertion about an entire population. You yourself admitted you don’t even leave the house very often.

This is not ‘Taiwanese are fairly compliant’ and I can assure you the over 50s are not itching to go party it up in Bali either.

No they haven’t. We’ve had an incredible two years of no lockdowns while the world was running with their heads cut off and initiating lockdowns.

We were not ‘whipped up’ into a ‘hysterical frenzy’. We drank and partied. We did what we wanted to. We travelled the country. You suffered a severe outbreak and lockdown in The Philippines. Not us. You had your freedoms curtailed. Not us. Chen Shih Chung had a 91% approval rating for his crushing of the Coronavirus.

We are gonna open up. But Taiwan is going to open up on its own terms and in line with public opinion. And any party that goes against public opinion is not going to do well in the next election. Just ask Ma Ying Jeou.

Ladies and Gentlemen: I present to you, the socalled ‘Fairly Compliant, yet quietly fuming Taiwanese’

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