"Back of the Bus" for unmarried longtime Taichung Alien Permanent Residents

“I’ve had enough of this. I want dual citizenship!” exclaimed hard
working (and hard taxpaying) unmarried long term Taichung Alien
Permanent Resident Micky Flakey [Real names hidden to protect the

New rules will put an end to free bus rides for him, but not for Dan
Flakeobson, married, reached briefly while levitating at his sprawling
Taichung ranch: “I’m not aware,” he murmured before drifting back up.

“It’s clear. If you can’t influence the vote (via family members) they
don’t care about you,” Flakey continued, “So Alien Permanent Residence
status doesn’t matter. The only thing that matters is if you are ‘good
in bed’! Flakeobson? I bet he doesn’t even know what a bed is.”

Indeed, looking at who will still get free rides starting 2021,
according to https://idoor.taichung.gov.tw/ ,
Alas, Alien Permanent Resident pastors, professors, etc. all slip
through the cracks, even if they have been in Taiwan since the Ice Age.

“The same sh*t happened at the 2018 Taichung World Flora Exposition. In
the beginning they even forgot spouses. Had to make a ruckus just to get
that,” Flakey stammered. Adding, “Let’s get the USA to clamp down just a
teeny bit on Taiwan residents there. That ought to get dual citizenship
passed here lickety-split.”


One might wonder the cost of a bus ticket in Taichung.

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Back when I used to ride it was 21$. The Flora expo ticket price seems like it wasn’t too much either. As a foreigner, we get paid quite well, especially compared to the locals. OP, do you think this kind of complaint is productive?

I don’t think it is the cost of a bus ticket, but the way they make those rules.

even if this plain statement is true, so what?


I wonder if one could ask a Taiwanese friend go register a card in their name and just use it. Does anyone know if multiple cards can be registered?

Although we shouldn’t have to do that. All Taichung foreign residents should all write in to complain.

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We’ve talked about this before. Whining over small things isn’t going to win people over. It sounds petty and in the grand scheme of things it is small.
Focus should be placed on positive things the foreign community is doing, not airing every gripe and making it out to be a big issue.


I agree that just whining wouldn’t change things. but what is the grand scheme of things? It is cummurative of small things, and changing each small things could be a faster way to achieve eventual change of the grand scheme.

I think the bus ticket rule is an exact example that non-spouse foreign residents are not considered as a part of community as well as many other similar small rules, and can be changed rather easily, if properly addressed.


What’s wrong with you ?

You seem to revel in your third degree status ? :grin:


It’s not whining to object to discrimination.
All the little shit adds up and if you accept you say…Yeah…It’s right you treat me as second class.

You say it’s a little thing but it’s the difference between free public transport or not.

That’s not a little thing that’s a big deal!


Are Southeast Asians also foreigners? :thinking:

@discobot fortune


:crystal_ball: Outlook good

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Thanks for clearing that up, DB. :slightly_smiling_face::+1:

Oh, and btw…

…don’t do that. :no_no: :oncoming_police_car:


I guess knowing I’m good in bed takes a little of the sting out of being a second-class citizen.


They are, but not in terms of working rights. You know that foreign workers are divided into blue and white collar work. I’m all for advocating for more blue collar rights, but I feel it does a disservice to us all when a white collar foreign who is well paid complains about a 20nt discount. Take the issue and frame it better.


it is not the 20nt what I complain about.

Then, the foreigners you mean are white collar foreigners without local spouse? For what should foreigners categorized into those groups when we talk about unfair treatments (imo) against foreigners?


If it’s really about means and not about citizenship, then eligibility should be based on a means test. But that would exclude new arrivals because they would need to wait until they’d been in Taiwan long enough to have proof of (low) income, or by exempting new arrivals it would include those with high incomes… which it already does anyway, as long as they’re not foreign. So it would still be about citizenship.

Do what the locals do when faced with such a situation. Stop using the service.

You’re both missing my point or are choosing to ignore it and talk around it. I want citizenship and think I deserve it. But we know the obstacles to getting it.

When I tell my Taiwanese friends about having to give up a passport, they’re sympathetic. If I tell them how unfair it is we don’t get the bus discount, they don’t really care.

I will repeat my argument. Well paid white collar foreigners complaining about not getting a discount is not going to win over any locals. It would be better to look at the bigger picture and perhaps include this as part of a larger argument. Using this single issue alone looks petty.

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you are ignoring what i say. I am saying the bus ticket rule is a part of a bigger issue, and which could be changed without much of locals involvment.