Curious to know your reasoning.
Or even vegetables.
Really a matter of common sense.
Any based cell based product has huge inputs , the chemicals, the plastics, the water, the energy …And what you get at the end is a very small amount of very expensive tissue. Yeah you could scale it and drive the cost down but highly doubt could get anywhere close to farm animals and surely 100x cost and environmental destruction compared to growing plants. Why not just try to switch people to veg diets with supplements instead.
So, um, I take it no one has recommendations about a meatless chicken substitute?
Sometimes common sense can be wrong.
What chemicals?
I’m a bit confused, livestock’s eating plastic? I need you to elaborate on this.
Where is this water coming from? Is a substantial amount being taken from drinking supplies meant for humans?
Is this in relation to livestock or lab meat?
Cause I like meat? Vegetarian diets suck lmao. At least in my opinion.
I mean. It’s not for me.
It’s just not yet feasible to make plant alternatives that could seriously mimic animal fibres.
For lab grown meat you’d need a lot of very pure chemicals and testing of said chemicals. Expensive.
Because these are going to need to be sterile they will be grown in plastic bags using enormous amounts of plastic (vaccine manufacture is also very heavy on plastic usage).
My apologies. I understood it as a comparison with livestock farming.
I thought the argument sounded off. Thanks for clarifying.
A lot of the stuff you’re asking about is covered exhaustively in the article I posted immediately above. It’s quite interesting, if you’re curious about the limitations of the technology.
Seems like a perfectly robust argument to me, and moreover it completely explains the emerging market for ‘meat based plants’. In the future not only will all the pork be made out of lettuce, but conversely all the lettuce will be made out of pork. When that day comes we will no longer eat ‘meat and two veg’ but rather ‘one plant based meat, and two meat based plants’. While it may challenge some shoppers to adapt to calling their onions ‘beef’ and their beef ‘onions’ it will save billions of insect lives.
Great article…
Lettuce is 100% water.
Which will result in a very watery lettuce-like pork substitute. However don’t forget that the lettuce will be composed of a lettuce substitute made out of pork so it will all even out in the end.
Easy. Lions mane mushrooms. Naturally stringy like chicken. Also like factory farmed chicken, fairly flavorless so takes on the flavor of whatever you add.
Lions mane mushroom
Hericium erinaceus
猴頭菇 = “monkey head mushroom”
Most are dried from China. Taiwan does grow them, Sometimes for sale fresh here. Eat at a restaraunt before cooking it so you know its potential (i like 3 cup style, not soups). If cooking at home, Read up first. Requires easy prep to get rid of the bitterness.
About the insect thing. Is this the thread i should put it in? Or perhaps the AG thread?
92% +/- 3%
Unexpectedly had lunch at a Beyond Burger hamburger restaurant the other day. Didn’t have much taste and I have no reason to go back but then I got curious about healthiness.
Seems to be similar calories and fat content and much higher salt content and highly processed.
A Beyond Burger, however, includes 18 ingredients: water, pea protein isolate, expeller-pressed canola oil, refined coconut oil, rice protein, natural flavors, cocoa butter, mung bean protein, methylcellulose, potato starch, apple extract, salt, potassium chloride, vinegar, lemon juice concentrate, sunflower lecithin, pomegranate fruit powder, and beet juice extract (the beet juice give the burger its meat-like “blood”).
Is the Beyond Burger Healthy? Dietitians Weigh in on Nutrition
Impossible and Beyond: Are meatless burgers really healthier?
I had a burger, taste to me is not bad and would not mind to have it next time if the cost is near. I was wondering if it was healthy, thanks for the links. One good thing (I guess unless someone else knows different or more) is less CO2, as cattle make a lot. (from the chart Rice burger like MOS maybe is more healthy/less processed but taste is well very different, I guess that is why not many MOS in EU-UK.)
They’re not any healthier; the appeal is they are supposed to be better on CO2 and avoiding cruelty to animals.
the appeal is they are supposed to be better on CO2
I think when they make that kind of claim they leave out a very crucial aspect.
One good thing (I guess unless someone else knows different or more) is less CO2, as cattle make a lot.
It’s methane.
It’s methane.
And burps, not farts- not that sounds much better.
