Beyond Burger and Plant Based Meats

Mouth farts?

In japan you can substitute any burger with a vegetarian patty. Theirs are more like the north american style of bean/oat base. Quite good, and as said, you can swap any butger for the veggie option.

In taiwan, the mos burger fries the beyond burgers with meat, completely eliminating their vegetarian clientele. No wonder they droped it, mos burger planning in taiwan is pretty horrendous for an international chain to be honest. In japan, they are awesome.

No one is actually eating the fake meats for health reasons, or even actual environmental reasons. They eat them cause they dont want to kill animals. Its easy. Anyone claiming they eat these things for health and environment are fairly unaware or reality. Its like eating potato chips instead of jerky…

Well, I will say this for Beyond Burger: just like regular beef patties, you need to wash your hands repeatedly to get the smell off! I took a patty out from the freezer an hour or two ago and the smell is proving just as hard to get off my hands as garlic would be.

I think they taste fine. Purely Beyond Burger versus beef burger, beef would win, but by the time cheese and sauces and vegetables are added, I’m not sure that my (admittedly super-weak-taster) palate would even be able to tell the difference. I also write this as someone who’s not a huge fan of burgers anyway - I don’t think I’ve ever made burgers in Taiwan until buying these.

Unfortunately my vegetarian spouse doesn’t really like them, so I’m eating more veggie burgers than I intended. And she wanted me to buy them, despite the fact that she stopped eating beef LONG ago - well before she became vegetarian - and never much liked burgers. Oh well. Super easy lunch, as long as I remember to take them out of the freezer.

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Citysuper A13

How is/was it? I am afraid of everything by Beyond Meat now, but I really want to be accepting of the reality that one day meat is not going to be on the menu and I will need to learn to adapt

I did not try that and generally avoid this type of food because I generally avoid processed foods with additives, salt, yada yada yada

Whenever I consider one I look at the nutrition label and no.

Smart. I fave them a shot. Not great compared to meat. Better than tofu for the meat eater trying to cut out meat. These mass processed foods though seem to be pretty shitty though. ITs true factory food with limited inputs is the future, but im going back to raw food these months and feel sooooo much better! It is WAY more work and more expensive though compared to most processed slop.

Fake meat doesn’t appeal to me because it is so processed. If I don’t want to eat meat, then I should eat beans, tofu, nuts, potatoes, etc.
Joe Rogan says that Bill Gates shouldn’t be giving health advice.

Not sure what joe rogan has to do with anything. But your list of beans, nuts are good. But tofu? Tofu is heavily processed beans. Not really following the logic, tofu is often pretty low grade processed goop as well, albiet usually without tons of flavor enhancers :slight_smile:

Not that heavily, beans are soaked, ground, curdled/coagulated and pressed.

I quite like the Beyond Meat stuff. I have two problems with it, though:

  1. It’s ridiculously overpriced.
  2. They put crappy spices in it.

I like the “mince” the most. It makes a pretty decent cottage pie, but don’t bother unless you have Worcestershire sauce and a quality red wine. It’s a real pain to fry, though, because unlike meat, the fats don’t separate it. You have to keep hacking at it or you’ll get a vegan pie.
The sausages are okay for hot dogs. The burgers are the worst. I’ll eat them, but they don’t rock my world.

I read the whole thread to see if there was anything about the film about plant based meat substitutes I saw the other day that was set in 2022. Oh well. Maybe I’ll try the movie thread.

Is it more expensive? My dumpling place have vegi ones that are good and about the same price as the real meat ones.

You realize even vegetables are processed and modified. There is nothing we eat that hasn’t gone through modification. Animals also have things injected in them while they’re alive and then again when they’ve been cut up :roll_eyes:


Can there just be a thread for fake meat without BS?

Still sounds gross. Frankenfood.

Then your only option is air but then again humans messed that up too. Best of luck eating things that haven’t been processed because that’s EVERYTHING.

There’s processed and there’s processed though, innit. There’s a fairly well-supported hypothesis that various modern varieties (eg., wheat, Holstein dairy cows) have something to do with the general ill-health in Western nations, but my feeling is that it’s a combination of many different failures that contributed to the tipping point. Yes, modern varieties of tomatoes and lettuce and onions are heavily selected for certain features, but I’m pretty sure a salad made with modern ingredients, grown in good soil, is no less healthful than one made with ancient ancestors of those plants, and might even be more so (because antinutritional factors have been selected out).

I can wrap up the thick hockey puck binormal meat burgers I bought last year when I was a vegetarian for 49 days and mail them to you. The Russians would have to be coming across the field out back for me to even think about eating them, and even then, I probably just whip them at the tanks when they got close enough.

Everything is process. Beans? Modified, sprayed with pesticide canned? They had to cook it and add preservatives.
Also, ridiculous when meat eaters try to pull the process card. Meat has a lot worse things in it that some even natural like pus.

What — is your point?

We’re so gd smart that we learned to modify plants to suit our dietary needs and you think it’s not natural enough for you? By your own words, your entire body is made of “processed” foodstuffs. Reminds me of some rattlebrain in college, a wannabe poet, who said at the tail end of a good party, “We’re all naked without our clothes.” :man_facepalming: