Bible question: Did Adam & Eve's kids commit incest?

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I just asked a colleague, who went through years of Catholic school, how there got to be a few billion people on earth if God created just Adam and Eve. Did their children have sex with each other? And their grandchildren? And. . . wait a minute, how did they have grandchildren, didn’t Adam and Eve just have two children – Cain and Abel – both boys, and one killed the other?

So how was the next generation formed? Cain and/or Abel must’ve had sex with Eve, right? Is that really so good and proper? What kind of a religious fable is that – the world was created by a bunch of incestuous murderers? Hardly seems worthy of veneration in my mind.

Anyway, my colleague responded that Adam and Eve were only the first couple and God actually created other people after them, but I don’t recall that in the bible so I called him on that cop-out excuse. I also called over another colleague who’s into the Bible big time and asked him too.

Christian number two told me I’m correct, God created just Adam and Eve, but they actually had a whole bunch of other children after Cain and Abel and, he said, I’m also correct that we’re all the result of incest – that Adam and Eve’s kids all did have sex with each other, resulting in the next generation, and they all had sex with their brothers, sisters, aunts, uncles, cousins, nieces and nephews and so forth, until we were finally begat.

But the incest wasn’t problematic back then, he explained, because – being just a generation or two removed from God – their blood was all extremely pure back then, so there was no real reason to worry about passing on hereditary defects, or whatever the reason is that we’re not supposed to fuck our brothers and sisters.

Anyway, there’s two explanations. What’s your understanding on the subject?

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Evolution. No god, no Adam, no Eve and hence no kids.

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Evolution. No god, no Adam, no Eve and hence no kids.[/quote]

Burn in Hell sinner!!! :smiling_imp:

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:angel: go to heaven, not hell.

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Ok, whatever. Anyway, I understand that you believe a bunch of amoebas turned into jellyfish, and the jellyfish turned into fish, and the fish laid eggs and salamanders crawled out of the eggs, the salamanders climbed up on land, their tails fell off and they turned into frogs, the frogs grew lots of hair and turned into mice, the mice got bigger and turned into rabbits, the rabbits fucked each other and multiplied, the rabbits then gave birth to goats, which gave birth to sheep, which gave birth to monkeys, which gave birth to humans. Perfectly simple.

Well, a lot of us don’t happen to believe that our great-great-grandparents were guinea pigs. For those of us who have descended from humans, I’d be curious to know how it all began. Was it initially like that FLDS cult or is my understanding of the Bible incorrect?

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They had sex with angels and fallen angels. It’s all there in Milton or Dante or whatever.

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According to some sumarian scolars,Eve was a sumarian who mated with an Anunaki (the fallen ones)creating a new race of people. Just another ancient story,much like the bible.

sitchin.com/adam.htm

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Well, In Genesis it just says that Adam and Eve had Cain and Abel. Then Cain killed Abel and Cain went to live East of Eden…where he lay with his wife…and she gave birth to Enoch.

No way of saying where that wife came from…

It is well known that Lot’s daughters made him drunk and slept with him to preserve the blood-line…a lot of incest there…

Quite a rough night…this after he saved the angels from the boys and men of Sodom and Gomorrah who wanted to rape them.

Why did we never hear this in church?

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[quote]Why did we never hear this in church?

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The church has many secrets they don’t want you to know.

The bible (old testament)is basically just a copy of ancient Hebrew texts

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Maybe Cain married a newt or something? That at least would explain Welsh people.
Couldn’t have been a woman, at any rate, if she wasn’t spawned by Eve.

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[quote]didn’t Adam and Eve just have two children – Cain and Abel – both boys, [/quote]No, Genesis 5:4 says “After he begot Seth, the days of Adam were eight hundred years; and he had sons and daughters.” But that makes no difference. Seth had children, doesn’t say who the mother was. Cain wandered alone but still founded a city, must have been an hermaphrodite. Genesis has 2 conflicting accounts of the creation anyway, and also implies that God made a cock-up that he had to fix.

But what I really want to know is… why is Adam always depicted having a belly button?

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So you finally uncovered the biggest secret of the catholic church, God is a woman… :astonished:

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Also, Jesus is always painted on the cross with nails through His palms. That could not have held His body…it would have torn out. More realistically, the nails were through the wrists…

ouchhhh

That sponge soaked in vinegar He got when He asked for water…I can’t imagine that.

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Vinegar’s quite nice on a hot day. I have it a lot. It’s very popular here, or used to be. There was a factory on Zhongxiao E Rd that used to brew it.

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that explains a lot! :laughing:

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[quote=“Battery9”]
Quite a rough night…this after he saved the angels from the boys and men of Sodom and Gomorrah who wanted to rape them.[/quote]

And in order to appease the crowd and save the angels, he offered the mob his virgin daughters. Quite the father figure that Lot.

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I reckon this is a question for Fritzel.

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Adam was eight hundred years? Did they have Viagra back then?

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Oh yea of little faith. I present you with the Genotype.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genotype

To those who couldn’t be arsed to read through all the genetic information on the subject, in a nutshell; The genotype-phenotype distinction is drawn in genetics. “Genotype” is an organism’s full hereditary information,
even if not expressed
. “Phenotype” is an organism’s actual observed properties, such as morphology, development, or behavior. This distinction is fundamental in the study of inheritance of traits and their evolution.

Therefore, it follows that when God created Adam and Eve, they and their offspring contained the full Genotype of all human beings. Their children may then have been rather varied. Let’s say they had ten boys and ten girls. They could have had a black child, a white child, and Indian child etc… Or at least children that had some or all of the phenotype traits of the races and ethnicities we see today. They would still have had the Genotype (as we all do…which in genetic terms moots the argument of racial purity etc) and it wouldn’t have mattered much from a genetic standpoint if they were shagging each other.

The same argument is possible for after the flood when only Noah’s three sons and their daughters were left to fill the Earth.

Odd you guys were never told about incest and shagging angels at Sunday school. I grew up Anglican and we were told about it. It’s in the Bible clear as day, afterall.

But I don’t want to get into any religious arguments, I’m just answering the OP from a purely scientific standpoint. Make of it what you will.

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My understanding is that, yes, they did commit incest. But, at the time it wasn’t a bad thing. Back then there weren’t any genetic mutations that eventually resulted in the kind of problems we see with inbreeding now. Over time, disease, parasites, and mutagenic effects caused changes in the DNA which introduced genetic hazards that inbreeding makes dangerous.

At some point in time, God made incest a sin to prevent this problem if people are obedient.

There are other explanations, of course.