Cabinet bill aims to attract foreign professionals

Very well.

We can attract gay people from China, and elsewhere as well. Why? Because every single country in the region is homophobic af and have no SSM (and won’t have it in like, decades), and it would be unlikely for them to be spy as their fidelity would probably be higher than the locals.

It sounds crazy, but if you really think about it, it’s actually true. The only obstacle is that Taiwan isn’t gay-friendly enough.

Btw I feel like many people seem to be living under some kind of extremely inaccurate impression that the brain drain is worse in Taiwan now. You’re probably forgetting that from the 60s to the 90s, Taiwanese people were moving to America and Canada in droves, the emigration even included a shit ton of doctors. If anything the brain drain has become relatively tame since the 90s. The scale isn’t remotely comparable. The truth is there isn’t a period of time in Taiwan’s post-war history where there isn’t brain drain.

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I don’t have sound at work.

My wife said that they extended child payments from 2 to 4 years. But those are quite small to begin with. Something like 2000NT/month

This is broadly true . And a section of those came back and did good things here. But we still want the best and brightest talents to want to live in Taiwan or et least move back to Taiwan at some point. I don’t want Taiwan to decline further in terms of its economic and scientific influence.

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I don’t see any Taiwanese people emigrating to the US these days. Who is the recipient of Taiwan’s brain drain?

at 10,000 a month Id think about it. 2,000 is nothing

China. Europe. And it is not that they are not moving to the US, but rather that immigration there has gotten tighter and it is getting worse. Moreover, we have all the ABCs moving back. Plus countless anchor babies, thousands every year. Dunno if you or anyone else in statistics are counting those as migrants.

Taiwanese migrated to Central and South America in the 70s and 80s, even 90s as a stepping stone to the US. People with means went there directly.

The amount of people who tell their kids to get out of this island tells me all I need to know about people’s attachment to Taiwan. Yet they say “like seeds to a tree, they must always come back”. Contradictory.

I like this gay idea. Let’s gay up the whole island. More quiche, more quinoa, more queerness. And house music. And fashion slacks.

But we need to paint all those buildings. Grey just doesn’t swing it with the gay demographic.
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Grey does not swing with any demographic. Heck, favelas in the ol country look better than our ugly concrete grey, wires exposed, garbage ridden gongwus. Why? They are colorful. Like makeup, it’s amazing what a fresh coat of paint can hide.

Oh, and a few flower pots would do nicely too.

In all seriousness, I have an ex who “found himself” later on and he would love it here. he’s a male nurse and emergency first responder training specialist, I think his skills more than qualify him for ahigh paid position in Taiwan. If he could find here a freidnlier -or at least, less hostile environment towards people of different persuations, well, he would be happy as can be to live in Taiwan.

Like him, I have many friends and acquaintances from LGBT spectrum who would love living in a place where they can perform their duties, exercise, contribute as volunteers in pet causes, etc. without having to worry about personal safety or being deemed not good enough to fully particupate in society.

Make it those other countries loss and Taiwan’s gain. taiwan fears their blood being dilluted and the race diversified? No problem wahtsoever with this segment. I’d even push them like you can marry but yoyu have to adopt one of our unwanted babies, the ones with drug withdrawal syndrome or the disabled ones. Win win, no more expenses for the State. *

*this last is part sarcasm, as I overheard some neighbors talking last night about another one who is doing foster care for a poor kid. They criticized her while I remembereed just today on teh news there was another case of a baby beaten to death because their parents could not stand the crying…teh kid cried because it had the drug withdrawal syndrome.

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I blame the KMT. Coming over here, waiting for the chance to retake the mainland. Not bothering with basic maintenance for 50 years…

They hate the place. When they got here, the place reeked of Japan and anyways they need someone to blame for not retaking -losing actually- the Mainland. This is acolony they have no attachments to. By they I mean the elite. same in the US. They live they, but they do not like it, they call locals foreigners and they yearn for being emperors and warlords again in teh Mainland. That is why they behave like warlords here as business people: they treat the workers as slaves, use Government resources for their adfvantage and anyone that goes against them gets a visit by their goons - hired mafia/heidao.

Its the same with the Elite in any country. Their allegiance is not to the country but their old boys network Elite families/blood lines and their push for Globalism which in fact has benefitted mostly the ultra elite at the cost of the upper middle class/middle class/poor around the globe.

Yep. That is why we need to reframe the argument not as green or blue, waisheng or negshen, but rather the clinging and the destitute. the “masters” and the colonies. The rest are excuses. Labels. Peel off, peel on. Use to an advantage.

I hear this a lot. But the KMT are not in power now

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99% of gummit is still blue. same with structures of power. Just because the captain is guiding the boat south, it doe snot mean that all gears are pointing north.

That would be pretty awesome a technicolor gay neighbourhood. We really need some colour in our urban environment here.

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The wages in Taiwan are not that bad compared to what the vast majority of hongkongers are making. To give you a rough idea, compare the take home salary of someone working in 711. Next to where I live there is a teashop advertising work at 26,000NTD/month, so I assume someone in 711 will be making roughly the same.

In HK you would be making working in 711 roughly 12,000HKD/month which would be around 45,000NTD, but when adjusted for cost of living your purchasing power will be more of less the same(assuming you live in government housing in hk, if you need rent in the private sector you are screwed).

But, if we are talking compensation in e.g. the financial sector, hk is way ahead of taiwan. But, all in all quite few work in the financial sector and even of those who do a very large segment are not hongkongers.

In my BIL’s street in Xinchuang they’ve done some pretty wild Alice in Wonderland kind of paintings on any bare concrete walls, with mushrooms and stuff. It does add some color. I’m nut sure how widespread it is

I often feel that foreigners actually care much more about this place than the locals. A lot of arguments in this forum are also based on this misunderstanding. We foreigners just can’t understand why somebody would care so little. But for the locals it is just a place like any other, not a “home”.

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Most of them say they want to move back at some point though. The days of desperate emigration en masse are long gone here. Taiwan even have a slightly positive net immigration rate nowadays.

There are still some, maybe like 5% of the amount on its heyday (a blind guess, probably higher).

Barely anyone emigrates to China, except those who have family there. Many go work there, they don’t stay.

Each European country has like a few thousand Taiwanese people living there at most. America is far more mainstream, and maybe Australia.