Can China invade Taiwan successfully?

The US does not recognize the independence of Taiwan.
The US has admitted that both sides of the Taiwan Strait acknowledge that there is only one China (that may have changed on the Taiwan side, but the US has not acknowedged it ). The PRC claims it is China; the US says the ultimate unification of China should be with the consent of both sides- but the US does not recognize Taiwan independence (this is the KMT’s 1992 Consensus.)

This is tricky, because the US does not want to abandon Taiwan, but doesn’t want to piss off China by acknowledging Taiwanese independence.

P.S. I see Pompeo was willing to make a statement on a radio show, but wasn’t willing to back it up as SoS. Neither was the President, or the US government. He was bloviating for a political audience.

This “1992 consensus” business is an entirely different fiction. It has nothing to do with the US position on Taiwan’s sovereignty—that it is undetermined.

Guy

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That’s right, but that does not mean US position is that Taiwan is part of China.
There exists a third way/possibility/scenario and that is Taiwan’s status is undetermined - (which has been the US position all along)

I can easily come up with 2 possible reasons why US strategists historically decided NOT to support Taiwan independence:

  1. Doing so would naturally beg the question, from WHOM Taiwan becomes independent? How do you explain it to the global audience?

  2. Even if US made Taiwan independent, that doesn’t necessarily mean (or guarantee) at any afterward, Taiwan as a state would not again become a puppet/buffer state of China, or like the Republic of South Vietnam be totally annexed by another state and vanished.

Independence (i.e., widely recognized statehood) per se is not a sufficient condition to guarantee longevity. It does not preclude the possibility of one state from being absorbed into another’s sphere of influence.

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Some college kid compiled a map of PLA
installations


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Shows blank for me

How about now?

And they’re locking up a steady supply of discounted oil in Russia, which means they aren’t prey to that long string of navies that will punch holes through hulls when China gets antsy.

Uh-oh, looks like they’ve got themselves surrounded, a la Iran. Guns pointing in.

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A great column by John Tkacik on Liberty Times (Mandarin) .

Basically saying that US One China policy is conditioned upon China peaceful resolution of the Taiwan Strait. As long as China pretends to uphold the peaceful resolution, then US can pretend to uphold the One China Policy. Neither term contains any substance or definition, but just circularly references the other. So whenever China does not uphold Peace Resolution, then US needs not uphold One China Policy.

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Taiwan might want to finance some industrial arms production lines in the USA.

Taiwan has been at this for a long time and has some pretty good defensive and offensive arms produced indigenously.

After reading the following article it’s not hard to agree with the conclusion that the USA is not capable of carrying out a prolonged war.

The article cites some statistic that showed to kill each middle east insurgent took 250,000 rounds of ammo.

How many PLA will Taiwan et al need to extinguish?

The Return Of Industrial Warfare | ZeroHedge

Below the surface a cold war is brewing . . .

“The Chinese Communist planes are like flies on your dining table. If you kill them on your plate then your meal is ruined,” said Hsu, 50, a tour guide and a military enthusiast. “All you can do is to wave them away.”

“On the surface, we have peace. But the reality is Chinese Communist planes are flying on our doorstep every day,” he said. “People need to be aware of the crisis.”

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This is not the same as the usual ADIZ flybys. It’s a much more serious incursion.

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China is threatening to declare a no-fly zone over Taiwan if Pelosi visits.

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CNN says “could seek”

Relax, she won’t come

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We’ll see. These things have a habit of escalating out of control. China declaring a no-fly zone over us and possibly shooting down the airline of the person third in line to the presidency would undoubtedly trigger a war.

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If that were true, Taiwan would have been invaded already

Yes, but habitually this doesn’t happen

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The issue here is control over the Taiwan Strait. China stated a few weeks back that it was it’s own private sovereignty while US states it is international waters. Such different views are bound to collide at some point.

So in Chinese authorities minds, declaring a no flight zone over their backyard to protect the integrity of the glorious Han, sorry, Chinese nation is their right and anyone who opposes it is wrong, is an imperialist oppressor of the Chinese people and hence, they will cry victim, probably mobilize the UN to protest/decry this violation of their sovereignty and accuse the US of war mongering.

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Detached from reality. How can China declare a no fly zone over Taiwan outside of a total war? Just not possible. Disingenuous US comments that this is something they are worried about.

The issue here is control over the Northwest Passage. Canada stated a few years back that it was it’s own private sovereignty while US states it is international waters. Such different views are bound to collide at some point.

So in Canadian authorities minds, declaring a no passage without permission zone over their backyard to protect the integrity of the glorious Canuckistan nation is their right and anyone who opposes it is wrong, is an imperialist oppressor of the Canadian people and hence, they will cry victim, probably mobilie the UN to protest/decry the violation of their sovereignty ad accuse the US of warmongering.
(We tried, they rejected our claims, but we still oppose American imperialism.)

These are only comparable if you acknowledge Taiwan belongs to China. Do you?

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