Can the Israel boycott end the 40yr Palestinian Holocaust?

[Huang_Guang_Chen]

[quote=“TainanCowboy”]Rachel just before the accident…

What didn’t she just get out of the way?

Darwin Award waiting to happen.[/quote]

Wow! There’s a new level to strive for.

HG

[redandy]

…and of course Israiel is the only country out there that commits such heinous crimes as to deserve boycotts and constant denunciation by the U.N. :loco:

[jwcampbell]

@redandy

…and of course Israiel is the only country out there that commits such heinous crimes as to deserve boycotts and constant denunciation by the U.N. :loco:

Of course not…but considering it’s the longest occupation in the history of the world…(Perhaps it will be in the Guinness Book of Records soon)…and, of course, the fact that it constitutes a betrayal of the best trends in Jewish ethical tradition…it deserves a Boycott…

Don’t forget…
729…made in Israel

[Gao_Bohan]

I love that plug at the end. I wish the IP forum could be moderated again so we could get rid of these propogandists without having to squeal on each and every one.

[jwcampbell]

The Palestinian Holocaust…The legacy of the Jewish Holocaust must be applied to other forms of oppression.

Irish Congress of Trade Unions: Boycott Israel

While the United States administration and public opinion in general have still shown no semblance of understanding of the basic inequity underlying Israel’s long-standing dispossession and occupation of the Palestinian people, some of our allies in Europe seem to get it. Grassroots movements, unions, and academics are increasingly holding the occupiers responsible for the problems of occupation.

The American position of blaming the colonized has only amounted to failure. It has rewarded Israeli aggression and human rights violations, propped up corrupt Palestinian rule, and as a result, only made things worse. The grassroots European vision, which follows the example of apartheid South Africa, is the only real peace movement in the world today…

http://kabobfest.blogspot.com/2007/07/irish-congress-of-trade-unions-boycott.html

@gao_bo_han

I love that plug at the end. I wish the IP forum could be moderated again so we could get rid of these propogandists without having to squeal on each and every one.

Don’t forget…
729…made in Israel

@TainanCowboy

[quote=“jwcampbell”][quote=“cfimages”]There goes my plan to buy an Uzi. Damn.

Don’t worry…I’m sure TC will lend you his…[/quote]

I have fired the regular and the mini-version, and am of the opinion that they are well designed and reliable weapons. They do what they were designed for - as any good tool should do.
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TC…just between you and me…people who are not gun freaks find the kind of gun talk above very creepy…

[urodacus]

can we ban someone for pointless graphics overload?

PS. I am not a gunfreak, but I too find the mini Uzi to be a very nice piece of kit. Prefer a H&K MP5 anyday, as the Uzi sprays high. H&K make glorious weapons, if you can use the adjective glorious for a tool.

[Big_Fluffy_Matthew]

[quote=“TainanCowboy”]Well…while that may be a good idea in your skull, the reality is that I do not now nor have I ever owned any model of the popular sub-gun known as the Uzi.
I have fired the regular and the mini-version, and am of the opinion that they are well designed and reliable weapons. They do what they were designed for - as any good tool should do.[/quote]They are designed to kill people and you have tested that ?

[Elegua]

[quote=“urodacus”]can we ban someone for pointless graphics overload?

PS. I am not a gunfreak, but I too find the mini Uzi to be a very nice piece of kit. Prefer a H&K MP5 anyday, as the Uzi sprays high. H&K make glorious weapons, if you can use the adjective glorious for a tool.[/quote]

Yeah…but it’s the same crappy 9mm round right?

[jwcampbell]

[quote=“urodacus”]can we ban someone for pointless graphics overload?
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[quote]
Visual Architecture: What is attention?

Some research results indicate that online, there is a 6 seconds (or less) pitch time to grab the attention of the audience! Because of this there is a downward trend towards reading all of the information available on a site (only your mom reads it all) and an upward trend toward rapid perception of symbols…

Efficient visual architecture will take into consideration the two poles of demographic profiles: it has to include passive/push information and active/stimulating information. These merge into the same pre-requisite: universal communication symbolism using a simple rule of three in order to captivate short attention span…

…The final step is to use color to separate and enhance visual areas…

http://www.digital-web.com/articles/visual_architecture_the_rule_of_three/
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Have I got your attention Urodacus?

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Palestinian death toll triples this year

By Eric Silver in Jerusalem
Published: 30 December 2006

The number of Palestinians killed by Israeli security forces in the West Bank and Gaza Strip tripled this year, according to an Israeli human rights organisation. B’Tselem said
660
Palestinians had been killed during 2006,
including 141 minors
. The report claimed that at least 322 of those killed were not fighters.

At the same time, B’Tselem recorded a drop in the number of Israelis killed during the year. Palestinians killed 17 civilians,
including one minor
, and six members of the security forces.

In Gaza alone, since the kidnapping of Corporal Gilad Shalit in a cross-border raid on 25 June, Israel has killed 405 Palestinians, including 88 minors. Of this total, 205 were defined as non-combatants. B’Tselem said the number of civilians killed showed a “deterioration in the human rights situation in the occupied territories”. That impression was reinforced by the demolition of 292 homes, housing 1,769 people, 279 of them in the Gaza Strip. Israel also demolished 42 Arab homes in East Jerusalem built without a permit.

Israel did not dispute the overall death toll…[/quote]
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The IDF killed 14,000%
more minors than the Palestinians…[/color]…end the occupation Boycott Israel…

[urodacus]

bandwidth wasteage is a crime too.

[jwcampbell]

@urodacus

bandwidth wasteage is a crime too.

So do us all a favor and stop posting…

Jews for Boycotting Israeli Goods Founding Statement

We are a group of British and Israeli Jews resident in the UK who have come together in this 40th year of the Israeli occupation of Palestinian land to support the Boycott Israeli Goods (BIG) campaign.

In 1967, the Israeli army took military control of the Golan Heights, the Gaza Strip and the West Bank, including East Jerusalem. Since that time the government of Israel has built settlements, roads and other infrastructure for its Jewish citizens, using land and resources stolen from the Palestinian people. This situation continues, unchallenged by Western governments, despite Israel’s being in violation of international humanitarian law and over 60 UN resolutions.

Israel daily destroys Palestinian lives, livelihoods and homes; it continues to build its illegal colonies and separation wall on stolen land; it continues to control Gaza while slicing the West Bank into Bantustans, separating Palestinian families from their schools, places of work and agricultural land; it denies Palestinian refugees their right to return and operates a form of racism in many respects worse than the South African apartheid system. Its policies of intimidation and humiliation aim to destroy Palestinian hopes of statehood. Israeli businesses export freely from Palestinian land while the Palestinian economy is on its knees as a result of the occupation.

We believe that this constitutes a betrayal of the best trends in Jewish ethical tradition. It inflames hatreds in our unstable world and renders impossible the achievement of a just peace for Israelis and Palestinians. We therefore support the existing campaign for boycott, divestment and sanctions to enforce Israeli compliance with international law.

We call on those of our fellow Jews who are inclined to support the State of Israel unconditionally to think critically about what Israel does in our names. We call on every ethical consumer, of any faith or none, to refuse to support the Israeli economy for as long as the illegal occupation and exploitation of Palestine persists.

http://bigcampaign.org/index.php?page=jews-for-boycotting-israeli-goods

[MikeN]

Really- it’s bad enough when fred starts screaming at us in huge red letters- this is over the top. If you can’t make your argument through words (with an occasional picture) than the problem is either with the argument or the arguer.

[urodacus]

@jwcampbell

[quote=“urodacus”]bandwidth wasteage is a crime too.

So do us all a favor and stop posting…

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thank you very much for your kind words. now just take your propagandist crap elsewhere or i’ll get shirty…

[Gao_Bohan]

This is why I think the IP forum needs to be moderated again. This spamming gets old fast.

[lurkky]

I’d like to contribute a personal, boring story.

I was about 12 or 13, coming out of the Oakridge Mall in Vancity with my mom. There was a little flyer on our car’s windshield. I took it and read it because I was bored. It basically said: Lots of foods have little Kosher marks on them: K’s in circles. If you see this mark on food, don’t buy it, because it means that an artificial tax has been imposed on the food to make it kosher for the Jews.

The logic of this made sense in my retarded 12yrold brain. Then my mom explained to me that it was advertising for some racist group. I was raised catholic and was attending a catholic school at the time, so I didn’t know a Jew from Adam (if you see what I mean). Antisemitism wasn’t something I was familiar with, or if I was, it was subtle enough (like the flyer) that I was too dumb to figure it out.

This boycott seems like more of the same, but luckily, I’m not 12 any more.

My questions for jwcampbell are:

1. Do you actually live in Taiwan, or have some connection to the island? or is this just propaganda drop box #729 on your list?

2. If you do live in Taiwan, aren’t you frustrated that no one understands your crazy conspiracy theories?

3. Do you really think you make a difference by posting this crap? The #1 rule of forumosa is to never change your mind about anything, so if you ain’t preaching to the choir, you’ve already failed.

I’m a huge Jean Genet fan, and was pissed that Sharon got away with Shatila. but your posts are too crackheaded even for me.

[Jack_Burton]

news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070718/lf … V6LmdvaA8F

Holocaust haunts Israel’s attitude to Darfur refugees

Do the Israelis have a moral obligation to others who suffer from genocide?

[Gao_Bohan]

Oh look, more spamming. yawn

[jwcampbell]

[quote=“Jack Burton”]http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070718/lf_afp/israelsudandarfurrefugees;_ylt=AkebsjRkbGfJ7IobW2V6LmdvaA8F

Holocaust haunts Israel’s attitude to Darfur refugees

Do the Israelis have a moral obligation to others who suffer from genocide?[/quote]

Shanghai: A Refuge During the Holocaust.

I would say yes…the legacy of the Jewish Holocaust should be applied to other forms of oppression…to be fair though running a brutal 40yr Occupation is very expensive, even with the multi-billion dollar support from the US making ends meet can be tough…just by war of comparison America’s war/occupation in Iraq has cost $444,627,046,794 so far…

http://www.costofwar.com/

ending the occupation of Palestine and would free up quite a lot of resources…I imagine…

Shanghai: A Refuge During the Holocaust

Forced to flee their homeland, these Jews became “stateless refugees” and were denied entry into most countries. Several countries restricted the flow of immigration during the war, especially for Jewish refugees.

As an open port, Shanghai was one of the very few places that stateless Jews could disembark without passports or visas. As a result, Shanghai became an important, life-saving refuge for thousands of Jews during the Holocaust.
http://www.hmh.org/ex_show.asp?id=70

@urodacus

thank you very much for your kind words. [/quote]

Your welcome.

@urodacus

and thereby provide a moral and material support to a Jihad, where the chief weapon is suicide bombers on civilian buses and at restaurants, and where the mothers raise their children from the age of two to have an evil irrational hatred of their neighbours that breeds yet more violence? No thanks.

What is the root cause of the violence? It is the Occupation and the theft of land that cause individuals to take up Jihad…
would you passively accept the kind of dispossession depicted in the graphic below…? Children living under occupation don’t need to be taught hate…the daily horrors of occupation are enough…nothing could be more rational…

What if this was your land?

[quote]“. . . no matter the occasion, no matter the question, no matter the newspaper or TV or radio journalist, every question must first be answered with a few basic points about the military occupation . . . This is the source of violence, this is the source of the main problems, and it is the reason Israel can never have real peace. Our entire political position must be based on ending the occupation and this must take precedence over any and every other consideration. . .” Edward Said 2001
http://www.counterpunch.org/saidaxe.html

Simple yet effective

[TainanCowboy]

Doesn’t Forumosa.com have any rules about spamming?

[Mr_PBH]

there is a squeal button.