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Apprently Copy-protected CDs cannot be put onto iPods.
With more and more artists going for copy protected CDs, what a fly in the ointment that is going to be.
Pfft, copy protection never lasts anyway. I’m sure someone’s already cracked that system by now.
[quote]Record executives said they were continuing talks with Apple Computer Inc to make these CDs compatible with iPods. In the meantime, Sony BMG also released versions of each album to Apple’s iTunes service.
That appeased some iPod users, but others are still angry because they like to physically own a disc before importing it to iPods.
American Technology Research analyst Shaw Wu said it would benefit both Apple and record labels to resolve the issue.
“Apple’s the leader in digital music. It doesn’t make sense to release too many copy-protected CDs if they’re incompatible with iPods. But Apple could also be at risk if these CDs keep selling well,” he said.
“It’s up to Apple to flip the switch,” said one record label executive.[/quote]After reading that, I think you could be reasonably optimistic that an ipod updater won’t be far away assuming more artists go the way of Dave Mathews and co.
[quote=“Tetsuo”]Pfft, copy protection never lasts anyway. I’m sure someone’s already cracked that system by now.[/quote]And if they haven’t, it won’t be too far away.
Sounds like a perfect excuse to just download them. When is the RIAA going to wake up and realize their antics are largely having the opposite effect of the one they desire?
at least (for the time being) it ensures dave matthews will be nowhere near my ipod.
I’m wondering what kind of “copy protection” they’re using.
After all, ANY CD that can be played can also be ripped/copied, one way or another.
This guy here says he had asked the company which designed the “copy protection” system, and they actually gave him instructions on how to copy the CD. What’s the point of “copy protection” again? :s
BTW, it seems that the CDs work perfectly in MacOS and Linux, without any workaround - you can rip them, copy to an iPod or do whatever you want with them.
If you have a Mac computer you can copy the songs using your iTunes Player as you would normally do.
Wow, there you go. Thanks for the link.
[quote=“truant”]http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3368698a1860,00.html
Apprently Copy-protected CDs cannot be put onto iPods.
With more and more artists going for copy protected CDs, what a fly in the ointment that is going to be.[/quote]
They had Macrovision and CSS on DVD, and people still figure out ways to rip them… If they had more complex/newer copy protection schemes on newer technology like HD-DVD or blueray, people will still figure out ways to beat them, only limitation would be size…
Just 2 days ago I managed to rip a copy-protected disk to my iPod. A few months ago I was unable to do it with another disk with the same protection. Here’s what changed…
The older disk was a compilation of The Fun Loving Criminals. I had tried several times (in vain) to even get my computer to play the damn thing, never mind rip it.
The newer disk was the KT Tunstell CD that’s just come out. I stuck it in the computer and waited. Nothing happened, and I noticed it had the same copy protection label as the Fun Loving Criminals CD. Before I had finished sighing (it was quite a long sigh) a message appered on my computer screen saying that I needed to update my media software in order to play the CD on my computer. I clicked OK and a little player appeared and started playing the CD. I noticed that the player was linked to Windows Media in some way.
I closed the little player and I then proceeded to rip the CD to my hard drive with MusicMatch Jukebox, no problem.
Then I thought “I’m going to try that Fun Loving Criminals” one again. I stuck it in, the little player appeared and the CD started to play. I closed the little player, ripped the CD and uploaded both albums to my iPod (with iTunes). They both work fine.
Note 1: I haven’t tried using iTunes to do the ripping.
Note 2: I ripped in MP3 format
Hope this can be of help to someone.
Stu
[quote=“irishstu”]Just 2 days ago I managed to rip a copy-protected disk to my iPod. A few months ago I was unable to do it with another disk with the same protection. Here’s what changed…
Stu[/quote]
Hey Stu,
This is the same protection you can disable by holding shift when you insert the CD? 
You might try reimporting after with iTunes. The iTunes track will sound a lot better than Musicmatch unless that uses the LAME MP3 encoder; if it does, then who knows. People still debate over AAC and LAME.
Well, my mp3 encoder IS pretty lame 
but it works out better for me cos my wife’s got an mp3 player.