Causes of Anti Americanism

What is it that causes anti-Americanism? This is obviously a political question, but equally a sociological, cultural and psychological one.

The very obvious answer is that the top-dog is naturally resented. I’m pretty sure this is only part of it though.

There is clearly a lot of it about and has been for a long time. I have to admit to being prejudiced concerning America myself and have been from an early age. Whether it be feelings about American politics being excessively right-wing, militarism and saluting the flag, American overuse of energy and resources, American capitalism, big cars, big mouths, big Macs, American religiosity and fundamentalism or American isolationism and knowledge of the world beyond their borders, I have force myself to be more objective. None of this stops me having very good American friends or liking American things, but I sometimes feel all the great American things I love have to climb over a bigger hurdle. I don’t think this is true when meeting people, though.

I think a large part of it is the idea of American exceptionalism and the belief sometimes expressed without a hint of irony, that America is the greatest nation ever. If America really is exceptional, that would go some way to explaining why negative feelings about that country would also be exceptional. And if America is just another hegemonic power with a superiority complex, the belief in its exceptionalism would obviously stir up some strong feelings.

An interesting indication of American patriotism is the way the adjective American is put in front of all kinds of things. You’re doing a documentary about hardworking farmers hit by the recession - it’s hardworking American farmers. You’re a politician talking about helping hardworking families - they’re hardworking American families. American jobs. etc. Gordon Brown used to bang on about hard working families - I’m sure an American politician would have inserted American. We already know a British or American politician on the campaign is not talking about hardworking German families. A very good friend of mine did a project about finding “positive American stories” post 2008, and I still find it hard to understand the need for the word American there, the location was perfectly clear without being stated.

Is this a kind of self obsession? Searching for the meaning of saying “I am an American”. The need to define the country as distinct from the places from which immigrants settled.

Perhaps if you over-emphasise being American, over use the adjective, others will too. An evil corporation becomes an evil American corporation. A fat person becomes a fat American. A loud mouth becomes a loud mouthed American.

American optimism, the can-do attitude that put a man on the moon, is inspiring, as is the liberal vision of the constitution, whatever American politics may be in practice. America is a fascinating place, full of contradictions (liberal/conservative, modern/religious & body beautiful obsession vs. obesity being the most obvious). And anti-Americanism is an interesting phenomenon.

I’m not going to write a thesis but I’d say jealousy is a big part of it. The US has been symbolic of wealth and prosperity for a long time. It’s the dream. Foreign policies come in second place. The arrogance of our nation and its people is a close third. There’s more, of course.

Jealousy. Anger over arrogance, ignorance, hypocrisy and misapplication of power. But mostly jealousy over all that rude success.

I’ve run into a bit of anti-Americanism lately.
Recently had a student tell me that America was ‘selfish’. I told him I agreed with him then asked “What do you think Taiwan would have done if it had as much power as America?” Come on now, we’re all ‘selfish’. That’s what helps us survive!

An Australian teacher at my school used to go on Anti-American diatribes during his classes and the students would come tell me about it, and I would just laugh my ass off. We all had a good laugh. The same teacher interrupted my dinner to tell me how currency trading was ruining some country’s economies. When he got to the pinnacle of his argument, had lined up all of his damning evidence, he said “And do you know who’s doing all this??? It’s the Ah----” then he remembered who he was talking to and after a brief pause said “It’s people from your country!” I hope that was an ‘ah ha’ moment for him. Here he was, explaining to an American about something that a few people were doing, and was about to damn me and my whole country for something I didn’t even know about.

It’s true that there are a lot of overly patriotic Americans, but I often meet Americans (usually recent college graduates) who seem to love flogging themselves because they’re American. It’s a sort of mock humility, this eagerness to condemn their own country and culture. For example, I was talking to a friend about that gyre of plastic floating in the Pacific ocean, and he was like “Yeah, it’s so terrible what us Americans are doing to the environment.” And I was like “Are you fucking kidding me? You think that’s us? When’s the last time you saw an American drop trash on the beach and walk away? Or even seen an American walk by a someone else’s piece of trash on the beach and not pick it up? (I can’t vouch for anyplace besides Hawaii and California, but I’ve never seen trash on the beach in either of those places, or if I did, someone always picked it up as soon as it was noticed) And yet here in Asia I see otherwise sane, upstanding citizens just leave their trash all over the beach. That’s where the gyre is coming from.”
(Okay I don’t have scientific evidence to back that up- I’d welcome statistics on where that trash is coming from, whether in agreement with my theory or not- a quick internet search revealed very little on the matter, though the GreenPeace website does call it the “Asian Trash Trail”)

Anyways, I probably get more positive responses when I say I’m American than negative responses. And I love meeting fellow Americans. Yes we’re loud, likely fat, at times overly patriotic, privileged, sheltered, etc… but most of the Americans I know are pretty interesting, have eclectic tastes, and are willing to express their opinions. I miss Americans. I like us.

Oil.

Arrogance, loudness, fast-food chains, crap sports, Christianity and imperialism. We shall, nonetheless, forgive them their minor foibles. They still make the best damn music. And have the hottest porn stars. And their guns are pretty.

Stereotypes.

Americans are loud, arrogant etc.
Muslims are terrorists, living in the stone age.
East Asians are conformist, group thinkers.

Etc, etc.

Whole groups are always stereotyped and usually in a negative way. Despite the fact that the majority of Americans are kind, considerate, people, they get stereotyped because of the actions of a few. Despite the fact that the vast majority of Muslims want to mind their own business and live peacefully, they get stereotyped by the actions of a few.

I think it is because of the extremes, 95% of the population is great, some of my best friends live in the US. However there are a few very loud people that ruin it for everyone, and the media loves to show what they think at any opportunity they get (it sells). The hippies from California that complain about anything that has to do with the right wings, and do waaaaaay to much drugs. The bible belt and their religious fanatics. And anybody that can’t say two sentences without bashing the opposite political party, either they are republican or democrats, of course their political party can do nothing wrong.
I loved living in the US during the two years of my life I spent there even thou I ran into a lot of these extremists, I guess that it is not only Muslims that go to the extreme.

Influence (of the US) and ignorance (of the anti Americans). As the only remaining super power theres virtually no one on this planet whos lives are not influenced by the United States of America. Some people focus on the negatives, I usually find myself pointing out to such people (of which there are quite a few back n the UK) that there are many positives also.

No other country exports a fraction of the movies and tv shows as the US, and while its great fun to watch the Dukes of hazard jump the General Lee off some bridge while yelling “Yee Ha” with a high five, some of the more old fashioned types might shake their heads and say “Americans”. Even myself, feel like groaning if I see another movie like Independence day, Americans all lined up, hand one hearts, national anthem playing in the background who are off to save the planet, while the nations of the world stand in awe and cheer on the USA.

I remember the first McDonald’s that wanted to open in an area near us, the residents complained that the area had histological sites and building codes, and a McDonald’s would just look tacky, in the end it was opened with something other than the usual style. For better or worse, fast food, 7/11’s and a lot of American culture has been integrated by other cultures, and in some cases people resent it.

Thats before we even get started on the influence the USA has politically and militarily.

Some of the stereotypes apply to the whole more than the individuals (if at all). I’ve never thought of American individuals as more or less kind, considerate than anyone else. That goes for most attributes that apply to individuals. Fat, on average, is an obvious exception.

Much of the ire seems to be directed at the American meme. I suppose that’s what stereotypes are. It’s hard to maintain that you don’t get nice people from everywhere - particularly when you meet a few.

The “self critical American” (there’s a stereotype) always makes me uncomfortable. Either it’s all true and America must be real bad, or we must be guilty of being real mean to them.

I’m really interested in this American jobs, American stories, American families, American this and that idea. You hear it elsewhere but I think it’s something particularly American. Maybe it’s just nationalism, but it seems very normal language in the US. There was a line in a TV show recently (admittedly written by a Brit who may have been giving America a friendly ribbing) where someone says his wife is expecting a baby, the other character says “are you hoping for a boy or a girl?” and he says, “just hoping for a healthy American.”

Some have said jealousy - that seems to be either the “top dog takes the flak” argument, or a way of saying it is because America actually is better (more successful?). Some might justifiably question how successful America is (the recent America is no 1 thread). Just saying it’s not something to be taken for granted.

Is America different from any other top dog in terms of taking the flak?

[quote]And I was like "Are you fucking kidding me? You think that’s us? When’s the last time you saw an American drop trash on the beach and walk away?[/quote]I believe the US is responsible for 30% of the plastic garbage in the world meanwhile we account for only 5% of the population. (Does this warrant some level of resentment? ) Many beaches are spoiled in the US but most of our trash gets sucked into the pacific gyre and if not, it ends up following currents that flow toward the Philippines.

Here’s about the path our garbage takes in the pacific.

youtube.com/watch?v=FrAShtol … re=related

As an American, I was going to post “living in America causes anti Americanism,” but I thought that this wasn’t really the perspective you were looking for.

There’s a lot that’s good about America, and a lot that isn’t. I didn’t really enjoy living there, though it’s “home.”

Damned right about the sports (there are some seriously, seriously fucking retarded sports in that country, not to mention boring as fuck – they do about five seconds of real work, followed by seven minutes of time out, arse-grabbing and dancing bear mascots, cheerleaders and music) and Christianity. I find certain other nationalities to, in general, be more arrogant, louder, have crapper food and just as imperialistic when and where they get the chance. On the points of being arrogant and loud, I have met many far worse Canadians in Taiwan than stereotypical Americans and my opinion of Canadians has taken an absolutely thrashing since I’ve lived in Taiwan. Furthermore, Brits, Australians and Chinese on vacation put any would-be loud, obnoxious American to shame in terms of who can be the biggest tool.

As for music, I’m out on that one. My favourite rock music is all British, though in most other genres, America has indeed dominated. Few, if any, of my favourite bands or artists from recent years are American though.

Porn stars? I don’t think so. Even leaving aside the Japanese porn stars, many of America’s porn stars (including the hottest) aren’t American. They’re usually Czech or Hungarian.

The fact there are (or were) deemed to be such things as “unAmerican activities” i.e. unAmerican ideas or beliefs, says something. We do say “it’s just not British, dear boy” but it’s not quite the same thing.

Such a strong image or definition of itself is bound to cause a reaction.

Did America invent anti-Americanism?

Britain is only so self-deprecating now because it’s lost its status in the world. I’m sure that back in the day it was a much different story.

That’s the question. Is America special?

“Stand aside there, my good fellow! I’m BRITISH, don’t you know?”

That’s the question. Is America special?[/quote]
It utterly and completely rules you. Whatever you do, wherever you live, they completely and totally govern how you shall live. How special is THAT? Is it WORTHY? Now that’s an entirely different question.

That’s the question. Is America special?[/quote]
It utterly and completely rules you. Whatever you do, wherever you live, they completely and totally govern how you shall live. How special is THAT? Is it WORTHY? Now that’s an entirely different question.[/quote]
Special as compared to previous top-dogs or hegemons?

That’s the question. Is America special?[/quote]
It utterly and completely rules you. Whatever you do, wherever you live, they completely and totally govern how you shall live. How special is THAT? Is it WORTHY? Now that’s an entirely different question.[/quote]
Special as compared to previous top-dogs or hegemons?[/quote]
Don’t matter none. They’re the top dogs NOW. They don’t need to concern themselves with whether they’re “topper” than their predecessors. They own the ground you walk on, the air you breathe. Got a problem with that? Take it up with your MP. :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: