CBS cancelling The Late Show

I’d be more upset losing Maher.

Colbert relies on the one liner schtick he built on the Daily Show.

Don’t worry, we have Pam Bondi, Lara Loomer, also the Donald himself, for TV comedy these days.

Your sense of humor just differ from mine. I have non idea who Loomer is. I don’t much watch Bondi as she is too OTT for me, and Trump was way funnier as 45.

and I don’t go to humor for news.

You're missing out on all the fun

Check the Money forum. I’m having plenty of fun. :star_struck:

To everyone: Being outside is also very much watchable, and enjoyable :slight_smile: The late night shows are all pretty terrible. Youtubes autoplay tends to play them when listening to politics.

Colber and Seth and etc is like comparing Joe organs group chats with the view. Total trash. Time killers. Like doing drugs and Watchung Simpsons reruns. Fine to do, nothing to praise.

Outside. Even the most horrible cities have parks and benches. Infinitely more entertaining watch a slug chase a rotting fruit than Watching colber hahaha

Dumb isn’t funny if they think they are correct…

Dangit, forgot the obligatory smiley haha

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For us living in Taiwan maybe that’s fine, but if you mean the shows’ intended audience, you want people living in the US to go outside to a park in the middle of the night?

Do you still get boosters too?

Not necessary after you have been infected a couple of times and aren’t an old or infirm person.

The first vaccine shots were very effective though in priming your immune system to get ready for this novel virus. And crucial for older people.

Yes, nature is better than staying indoors Watching TV/computer/phone.

If you are implying this shows’ audience probably is inclined towards stupidity. I don’t disagree. But that doesn’t really mean that’s what our bodies should be doing for entertainment.

I find those late shows INSANELY dumb, and literally unwatchable. But some don’t. I don’t care about that, we all have our escapism preferences. I LOVE South Park. Others loath south park in the same way I loath late night shows. This shouldn’t get in the way of going outside and witnessing reality at least a couple times every day. Per day. Preferably more. Our bodies are wired for it.

I’m implying that the target audience of these late night talk shows would be watching new shows every night at least after 11:30 pm at home, and there would be very little nature they could see outside. It would also not be very safe hanging out at parks in the middle of the night in many US cities, unless you live in affluent suburbs.

In the US late night tv is for winding down, not winding up. That’s one big difference between Carson and Colbert.

Carson would take jabs at national politicians but he wasn’t milking it for strenuous audience applause; often he would follow up a jab with wry self-deprecation, which signaled that he was no expert and dialed back the adrenaline for his viewers. Colbert didn’t do that.

Looking back at things I have to wonder if Colbert now thinks choosing to go all-in on partisanship just as broadcast tv is dying as fast as us boomers are dying was not a wise move for his comedy career. I’m sure he’ll be back, but it’ll probably be on a streaming platform, with low production costs and cuts ready-made for YouTube.

That said, there has been some discussion at WaPo about recruiting Colbert for the US Senate in his home state of South Carolina.

That would be a step down. Last time Colbert ran for an office in South Carolina he ran for the presidency.

I only started watching late night shows in college, and that I started with Conan. That probably dated me. Conan has high energy but was very self-deprecating. I only watched Leno as I waited for Conan to come on. Leno in someways was also very self-deprecating. However, Colbert is also very self-deprecating. Not as much as Jon Stewart, I guess, but I think it makes fun of himself in almost every monologue.

I agree that these shows are for winding down, but in comparison, Colbert is not as high energy as Leno or Fallon, at least for me.

Fair enough!

Maybe I am too accustomed to the safety and comfort of taiwan’s democracy and social security. Here, we often have groups going out at night. To view city sites, caves, glowing mushrooms, plants, food, animals and so on. Literally all the time, without any thought on safety. I have also lost my worries on basic human perversion it seems.

I should be more worried about my wife when we are in Canada this summer.

People here worry about mosquitoes and the off chance of a cobra, even though that isn’t interested in attacking.

In many other countries, people are surely the issue.

But here, part of the pleasure is the safety. And by thatcibmena freedom withvthebdlsafety. Not Singapore styled safety. Whcih has conditions. Taiwan is so nice, it’s hard planning a family trip to Canada and the usa, then realising how inferior those countries are in almost every possible way :sob:

Another difference from Carson, and differentiates Colbert from his fellow late night hosts.

After Craig Ferguson, I thought Conan was the best of the post-Carson late night hosts, and I too think he was sincerely modest. I also mostly like Letterman’s monologues.

While Colbert said self-deprecating things, I never really found him sincere. He seemed to leave very little wiggle room for disagreement.

Before your time, I realize, but Carson also had a monstrous ego. But he would often follow up a shot at, say, Reagan with body language (hands in trouser pockets, rocking back and forth, nodding while pursing his lips and with eyes wide open) that convinced me he didn’t consider himself an expert, that he was just making an observation and that there was room for others to disagree.

I always get the feeling that Colbert is 100% sure that he is right. I admit that bottom-line, it’s subjective, though.

Oh that’s interesting! See, as a Brit we just get told that’s “American” humour and it’s popular and we won’t get it because we lost the war/we’re much better than all Americans/we don’t have guns and you’re all barbarians etc. - I didn’t know it was relatively unpopular in the US as well.

Colbert just seems like a whiny cunt.

The wine-tasting in Italy with his producer was a classic for me.

I think those are just two very different times. Deepdive into an issue in comedic forms wasn’t a thing before Stewart, so political commentary in late night talk shows were usually just one liners. The deepsives were what made the Daily Show and Colbert Report worth watching for me. It was what made the first couple season of Last Week Tonight interesting. It felt like investigative journalism delivered with quips, clever remarks, or exaggerated reactions to make often frustrating information consumable.

Once Colbert transitioned to CBS, I think there was serious push for him to step away from making his new show also filled with political commentary. However, when he did lean into it he got better ratings, so after a few seasons his Late Night became Colbert Report minus the outrageous character. He also couldn’t use format of the popular W∅rd segment. He tried to just redub it the Wərd, but I guess eventually he couldn’t do that either.

Jon Stewart’s school of thought is that the satirists should not walk the I don’t pick sides line and play it safe. They should express their preference based on logic and their own morality, and make fun of anyone who did things without logic or immoral. For Stewart, he gets frustrated when the right asks him to not pick sides, and it frustrates him when the left says he’s not a team player when he did make fun of them.

My beef with Colbert was mostly with how he treated Andrew Yang. Also when he didn’t want Stewart to say COVID came from China’s lab on air. Most of the time he seems pretty sincere to me. Less sincere than Ferguson or Stewart maybe, but more sincere than Leno.

Conan felt more sincere when hia show was on the verge of cancellation when he first started. As he aged though, he had a lot more cynicism, maybe fake, when he presented himself. So I really miss the early 2000s Conan.

Sad to say it’s the first time I’ve seen it, and yeah that’s pretty classic. :laughing:

Different times for sure. I’m looking for wind-down entertainment late night, not Stewart’s/Colbert’s moralistic satire that leaves no room for disagreement. To each his own, though. Maybe Stewart wrecked Colbert’s show in the end.

I guess his treatment of Yang is an example of what I’m talking about.

When he objected to Stewart pointing out that Covid came from a lab in China it was, for me, yet another confirmation that I’m no fan of Colbert. He was funny, or funnier, as correspondent on Stewart’s show, though.