Chinese in Taiwan, how to explain democracy to them? should we? should the Taiwanese?

They probably think that’s worse.

The ideal progression from the beginning is become freindly and.start the back and forth with WE not I and You or even THEM.

Many of us have talked with people that enede up changing. In fact we have talked with people that change us as well. Its a back.and forth, just like this forum and.this thread. Its always good to remember that.

And i agree, it is absolutley a good thing to discuss politics with people coming from other countries like china to live here in taiwan. Why not? No need to abuse them…that will only help the CCP propaganda machine. They have every right to tell you to piss off just as you have the right to tell them we dont want their government to murder our families if we say we are a free independant country. Fair game. Same diacussion has gone on for centuries in regards to.religions. missionaries have the right to talk, not force. Athiests have the right to object to their views as well. Its called freedom of speach, and its overwhelmingly a net positive despite the odd assholes.

Yea I think that’s pretty much it :laughing:

That’s how it works in some other places too, including in the UK. The ‘leasehold’ as opposed to the ‘freehold’.

Maybe when you identify strangers that might be Chinese you could start by sinoligising them?

I’m really thinking my attempt at sarcasm would have been far better placed against ,@explant though :laughing:

Let me have it, big boy :slight_smile:

I lack the congnitive energy so I’ll let you self reflect. :laughing::heart:

I can see why the Chinese are so adversed to democratic ideas. They CCP has elevated their living conditions in ways no one could have possibly imagined.

It’s just easier for them not to worry about it I guess. As long as the party keeps the good times coming at least. machiavelli Made an interesting commentary on how to govern. People can forgive you if you kill their family. They will never forgive you if you mess with their money.

And tbf, look at their countryman. Imagine if all the Chinese voted :scream: in your country. I wouldn’t like the results very much.

What does that mean? Current lord mayor of Dublin is Chinese by the way.

Democracy might not seem so appealing when your neighbor pushed you out the line to get to the stall for his grilled bat :bat: on a stick.

And that’s what the current lord major of Dublin got over to get elected. ( There is a sliver of truth and a dollop of humor in what you said for sure. Or even a dollop of truth and a sliver of humor)

ask Facebook that question.

you better off pushing a boulder uphill.

In Canada, they do. Most of them oppose China; a smaller minority think we should trade with China with restrictions; a very small minority thinks we should let it rip.
What are you suggesting; we should demand ID showing where your ancestors came from before allowing citizens the right to vote?

I’m not suggesting anything. You’ve read too much into it.

We should demand a minimun of knowledge about democracy, law and history before you vote as a foreigner. Natives from each country are supposed to get this knowdledge in the school.

Foreigners can’t vote in Taiwan.

Oh. Maybe I read too fast. I thought is about letting Chinese vote in your country, meaning for example Spain or Italy. I am agaist letting Chinese vote in democracies.

Chinese as well as foreign nationals cannot vote in Spain or Italy. Spaniards can vote in Spain. Italians can vote in Italy.

My original point is that if you’re living in China, it might not be so appealing to participate in a democratic process when you see how your neighbors behave.

Not if Chinese immigrants should have voting rights in other countries.

Foreigners in Spain can vote in city elections.