Chinese spouses being kicked out for expressing their pro-unification views?

https://taiwannews.com.tw/news/6058836

Isn’t this a free speech issue? I thought one of the differences from being outside the Great Firewall was that we can espouse opinions that may be objectionable to others, and they can choose not to listen to us

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Free speech does not include treasonous speech. It’s not absolute and has limitations. Incitement to overthrow the government would be one of them. Freedom to criticize, not to threaten.

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No they’re foreigners. Foreigners don’t get to do whatever they want.

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advocating for a government constantly threatening the lives and very existence of Taiwan is not free speech.

No right is absolute, or we would live in anarchy. As we are not gods, we can’t live in anarchy due to our flawed human nature, hence laws which limits rights and institute obligations and duties.

So much so most of the paladines of pure free speech are actually the biggest detractors as they rarely allow views contrary to them haha (see the orange man in the conglomerate of states below Canada and his acolyte the South African dude).

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The current government of Taiwan is not in a jolly mood lately concerning residents who advocate on social media or other platforms a military takeover of our beloved home. Here’s part of what the premier said:

Premier Cho Jung-tai (卓榮泰) yesterday said his Cabinet would take a tougher stance . . . when dealing with people endangering Taiwan’s security, including prosecuting active-duty soldiers for treason in military court.

Cho made the remarks at Tainan’s Dawan Wulong Temple (大灣武龍宮), the latest venue in a series of nationwide policy information sessions hosted by the Democratic Progressive Party (DPP).

“We must restore the public’s confidence. Those who advocate hostile military actions against Taiwan will be asked to leave this country,” Cho said.

Source: Cabinet to be tougher on people who harm security - Taipei Times

Guy

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Send them to Green Island. Just reiterates that the DPP is a poor man’s KMT or Cultural Revolution adherents.

National security is higher priority than free speech. Taiwan never had free speech anyway.

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I guess the line that was crossed with them was advocating using military force, that seems to fall under threatening and incitement of violence which is often not part of free speech.

If they were just saying they are pro unification that doesn’t seem to be a problem as there are many pro unification protests in Taiwan.

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When was this implemented? Based on my limited knowledge of Chinese swear words, this seems no different from street slang—but I could be wrong.

The regulation is explained here:

Article 20 of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR) as the basis for rejecting Liu’s request for an injunction.

The article states that one, “any propaganda for war shall be prohibited by law,” and two, “any advocacy of national, racial or religious hatred that constitutes incitement to discrimination, hostility or violence shall be prohibited by law.”

I guess that the law enforcement considered that at 400 thousand followers, the message could be labeled propaganda. :woman_shrugging:

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So I’m basically on point. The line that was crossed was advocating for war and incitement of violence to reunify.

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She came here and enjoyed the benefits of Taiwan such as the health care… so much so that she took her whole family from china to live in Taiwan.

So why does she want it to become part of China and then lose all the benefits she upped sticks for? What a completely deranged moron this woman is.

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Apparently she dont wanna leave.

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She wants to be in China but not live in China :laughing:

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Not sure when, but it’s common knowledge here that giving the finger or calling people names can get you fined.

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She’s still being kicked out.

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It’s honestly hard to sympathize with her at all.

She wants to force Taiwan to reunify with China….but objects to being forced to reunify herself with China.

I doubt she will see the irony of the situation

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She is protesting now

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I would love to see her doing that in her beloved China.

She will be disappeared. The thick irony of it.

RMB cash smells bad

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She wants to use free speech to take away free speech. Would she complain about her lack of free speech in China? We all know the answer to that one.

I feel sorry for her kids who were born here and set on a path of ruin by having such a mother.

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