Just saw a story in the paper that Europe (by 2014) is planning to follow Australia in introducing a generic packaging system for cigarettes.
Now that’s plain …
I thought your post was about people burning themselves with cigarettes.
if people stop smoking the governments of the world will have to raise taxes to make up the deficit in tax revenues. It’s a sad day when a perfectly legal habit is victimized in such a way.
I’m sure I read somewhere that these images weren’t very effective anyway.
it’s come a long way, so fast.
I remember long-haul flights in the 90s, seated just in front of the smoking section that was at the back of the plane. Wafts of nicotine washing forward over you.
Too young to remember the ‘sit where you like and smoke’ though.
It’s not about the images perse, but about the non-branding, colours, logos, making it (not)appealing to young new smokers …
I think those cool new graphics will do the job on selling ciggies to kiddies. TBH I liked all the advertising and designs the cigarette brands used, but that was then and this is now. It’s the right thing to do. Cigarette companies are focusing markets in like Taiwan, where the have more freedom. I think they will eventually get chased out of every country (read, heavily controlled). Does the tax revenue outweigh the cost of the health system?
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Cigarette companies are focusing markets in like Taiwan, where the have more freedom. I think they will eventually get chased out of every country (read, heavily controlled). Does the tax revenue outweigh the cost of the health system?[/quote]
I spent some time in the Sin industry and can tell you the following :
-Taiwan is now a heavy regulated market. Cheap pricing vs. wages are one of the main reasons people still smoke a lot. Marketing is almost sine qua non.
-Among all Asian countries, there is only one in which smoking incidence increases. That same country is still very liberal vs. smoking.
When L&M became the first brand equipped with the graphic health warning here , they had increased sales.
" cool" perception was the reason behind … Sad but true.
-Tax vs health: each country has its mechanics and prognostic calculations behind that taxes should support required medical treatments.
Canada, Thailand are extreme " dark" markets thus the decrease of smoking incidence is not higher vs. other markets.
Anyway, when the tobacco industry has been shut down, next will be Alcohol… A matter of time.
it’s such crap. I hate cigarettes, have never smoked, and never will…but if they want to do this, they need to put pictures of cars wrapped around trees on alcohol bottles.
Word - and more.
I hate as much strong Alcohol and anybody showing an exces consumption.
Having witnessed how devastating it works in a family/ in a society, the wrapped around the tree car would be the icing of something much much bigger, but which many deny under a " social drinking" excuse.
Anyway… Off-topic 
Maybe alcohol and cigarettes will be treated differently. Although there are alcoholics, which have big social costs, alcoholics are vastly outnumbered by casual drinkers who show no ill effects from drinking (and I think I’ve even read one drink a day is correlated with longer life).
Whereas I would guess most cigarette smokers are addicted at some level. And long term smoking, even at low levels, is probably correlated with more medical expense (and often borne by the public).
I rather like the olive green color.
I remember that dreaded seat… right in front of the smoking section (which was in no way partitioned from the “non-smoking” section… as if smoke doesn’t drift 
).
What I did was reach up to the air blowers above me, turn them to full blast, and point all three of them back toward the smoking seats. That at least helped minimize the drift.
I remember that dreaded seat… right in front of the smoking section (which was in no way partitioned from the “non-smoking” section… as if smoke doesn’t drift ).
What I did was reach up to the air blowers above me, turn them to full blast, and point all three of them back toward the smoking seats. That at least helped minimize the drift.[/quote]
Ah, you youngsters! 
We were allowed to smoke in hospital wards, and lecture halls on campus!
I tell you whats bad? To get a hotel room thats a smokers room. Because they ran out of non smoking rooms. Yech ! It gets you coughing because you are in that room for the nite.
In some supermarkets here in the UK now they are not allowed to display the cigarettes so they have them all hidden behind a locked sliding cupboard with a massive sign saying it’s illegal to sell them to those under age. If you want ciggies you have to say what you want then they go surreptitiously and get them. It is all very cloak and dagger. I wonder if it heightens the mystery of the whole thing for young kids, thus drawing them in.
“What IS your fascination with my forbidden closet of mysteries?”
I think those cool new graphics will do the job on selling ciggies to kiddies. TBH I liked all the advertising and designs the cigarette brands used, but that was then and this is now. It’s the right thing to do. Cigarette companies are focusing markets in like Taiwan, where the have more freedom. I think they will eventually get chased out of every country (read, heavily controlled). Does the tax revenue outweigh the cost of the health system?[/quote]
There was some research on this and the answer was yes, or rather that smokers (and the obese) contributed more to the economy than they took from it in healthcare. It was because they pay more tax and die young, so saving the expense of old age care.
I think those cool new graphics will do the job on selling ciggies to kiddies. TBH I liked all the advertising and designs the cigarette brands used, but that was then and this is now. It’s the right thing to do. Cigarette companies are focusing markets in like Taiwan, where the have more freedom. I think they will eventually get chased out of every country (read, heavily controlled). Does the tax revenue outweigh the cost of the health system?[/quote]
There was some research on this and the answer was yes, or rather that smokers (and the obese) contributed more to the economy than they took from it in healthcare. It was because they pay more tax and die young, so saving the expense of old age care.[/quote]
Free government subsidized cigarettes and whiskey for everyone! It’ll save the economy!