Zeugmite commented on your links
Out of Chaos commented on your news feed interpretation.
I saw the news reel, the weather report in the beginning 15 min was very interesting, but other than a person wearing black wearing a green head band, I can’t really draw any conclusions based on the video feed.
I have other sources for the 3 hour riot at the airport, which confirm Green attacking Blues, and vise versa.
Okay then what information can you provide about these ID tags?
Nope, I noticed the dead URLs, too. It’s a sign that you try to google up some “evidence” after being called on BS. You’ve lost all credibility when you tried to claim 85% of the Taiwanese support T.I. by methods of 偷梁換柱 as well as the infamous “since there has been a Taiwan it was never a part of China”.
Lets approach the “4-26 Airport Riot” from another tack:
Will this be an important turning point in Taiwanese homeland policy?
Will the publicity about this cause any change in Police tactics and response?
How high will the level of accountability go for what happened?
Will it be “pai sie - paisie” and continue business as usual?
Will the FAA (The commercial aviation authorities) have any comments or actions in regards to the airport riots? A serious breech of airport security obviously occurred.
Probably a few more speculations could be added.
Setting off fireworks inside the terminal building of the capital’s airport. Where else in the world would you see it. Will the two guys on the front page of the Apple Daily be charged with explosives offenses?
To a casual observer we have seen anti-Japanese riots in China conducted without restraint in the full gaze of the government and police, and now we have unrestrained anti-China riots in CKS airport in the full gaze of police and government. In the former case it is generally accepted that the government was quite happy with the demonstrations, probably orchestrating them. In the latter case, Taiwan, is it possible that all this foreseeable brouhaha did not have the tacit consent of the government? Is the government now saying nobody foresaw this and the police “weren’t prepared”? So, er, in Taiwan, what do the police actually train for? Handing out traffic tickets? Is there a credible defence or armed forces anywhere in Taiwan? Perhaps I’m a bit naive, but surely a reading of the Riot Act, closure of the airport to passengers, to protect them from harm and from seeing this disgrace, and then a swift clearance of the departure hall, with tear gas if necessary, is not beyond the competence of the police? (How the hell did all those people get in there in the first place?)
If the government wants us to believe it didn’t have a hand in this disgrace it’s going to have to fire a few coppers. I believe the DPP is not stupid enough not to have foreseen how utterly stupid this would make them look if it were believed they hand a hand in it, so I reckon it really was police incompetence. The old cliche justice must be done, and be seen to be done applies here. Otherwise the DPP is going to come out of this looking very sheepish.
I notice the head of the transport police has been removed from his post. A good start. Frank Hsieh has accused him of a “serious dereliction of duty”. Nice to see a politician matching words with action.
Where I’m from people die of hunger every fucking day…
Over here we seem to use food, eggs at the airport and lunchboxes in the legislature, to express our disgust and dissatisfaction with one another. :fume: Should show that to Taiwan’s African allies where starvation is a daily reality.
Firecrackers inside a terminal? 
Tells us something about airport security, doesn’t it? WHY are the poh lice and security officers in this country so utterly bloody useless? Pafuckingthetic.
Could somebody please forward this rant to the President?
[quote=“21p”]So, er, in Taiwan, what do the police actually train for? Handing out traffic tickets?
[/quote]No, too scary, they take pictures and send them by mail instead. Remember the chase for Chen Chinhsin? Really showed what cowards the cops are in the face of personal danger, but given what lousy training and pay they, what can you expect?
[quote]a swift clearance of the departure hall, with tear gas if necessary, is not beyond the competence of the police?[/quote]With all those passengers in there? :s
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If the government wants us to believe it didn’t have a hand in this disgrace it’s going to have to fire a few coppers. I believe the DPP is not stupid enough not to have foreseen how utterly stupid this would make them look if it were believed they hand a hand in it, so I reckon it really was police incompetence. The old cliche justice must be done, and be seen to be done applies here. Otherwise the DPP is going to come out of this looking very sheepish.
[/quote]I wouldn’t be surprised if the cops in charge there were just helping the make the DPP administration look bad simply by not doing their jobs, they’ve been learning from pan-blue legislators… 
I agree that some heads must roll.
[quote]TSU blames DDP for riot
TSU Secretary-General Chen Chien-ming (陳建銘)…also pointed a finger at DPP Legislator Wang Shih-chien (王世堅), accusing him of inciting his supporters to clash with the pan-blue crowds. Chen said TSU’s supporters were being scapegoated. [/quote]
[quote]KMT blames the TSU and DPP
The Kuomingtang caucus,… pointed its finger squarely at DPP Legislator Wang Shih-chien and TSU Legislator Lo Chih-ming (羅志明) as the instigators of yesterday’s violence and called on the Ministry of Justice to prosecute them[/quote]
Looks like Wang Shih-chien and Lo Chih-ming will be shoulding the responsibility for the riot.
KMT demanding accountability for causing riots? That’s rich.
We’ll begin to see progress in Taiwan when someone in charge stands up and says “it’s my responsibility!” instead of saying “it’s their fault!!”
OOC
Not quite what you mean, but close …
[quote]“The premier said that he will take full administrative responsibility on behalf of his fellow Cabinet members where necessary. Law enforcement officers must stringently carry out their jobs no matter who is the subject of their work,” Cho said.
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Hmm. This is the second time I’ve quoting Frank Hsieh at you. That’s worrying: it implies I think a politician might be doing a good job somewhere 
Making the right noises at least …
pan-Greens have shown their colors, that they (on up to CSB) most likely tolerated the violence.
According to articles from Apple Daily, two Wang’s instigated violence.
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【台北報導】民進黨立委王世堅及「名嘴」汪笨湖，昨遭在野黨點名須對機場暴力衝突負責，兩人當天雖然並未攜帶違禁品，但曾同台點燃群眾的激情。王向群眾高喊：「雞蛋儘管丟沒關係
Beginning to hate the idea Patriotism now…
It is an embarrassment. I am so ashamed by this incident.
It seems that both (or all) parties are in a scuffle over who has the most legitimate claim over the whichever’s notion of Nationalism.
The less these irresponisble and sycophant politicians rant on about Nationalisms and Patriotisms, the higher the chance that we will hopefully find some peace.
These concepts just divide and classify people according to ethnicity and histories; seeking out public political enemies to abuse.
I hope nobody gets drawn into this kind of rhetoric.
Which is, of course, entirely different to how pan-blues dealt with their boys who incited riots and violence after last year’s election.
I love how both sides keep accusing their opposition of hypocrisy when they’re both guilty of the exact same shit all the time.
oops! Guess I was floundered for being off topic? Well, I left out that it was just such incidences as rioting at the airport that have swayed my husband’s opinions. These thrid world dramatics are what makes Taiwan look like a backwater. Things like this are just terribly embarrasing for my husband.
Blame it all on the rain. If it was not raining, the protesters would not have all gone inside the terminal for the terminal face off. The rain, the rain, it’s always the rain.
Upon reflection, I think this airport riot was good for Taiwan’s international image. It shows the true democracy is here and that people of all ilks can protest in whatever way they want, even in an international airport forbidden zone. With the police keeping “order.”
This could never happen in China. So Taiwan wins another round, and thanks to all those gangster teens. Slingshots! David versus Goliath!
Lee Teng-hui is Moses, CSB is Joshua. Lien Chan is Jesus Christ. James Soong is Armageddon. Taiwan is Jerusalem!
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Upon reflection, I think this airport riot was good for Taiwan’s international image. It shows the true democracy is here and that people of all ilks can protest in whatever way they want, even in an international airport forbidden zone. With the police keeping “order.”[/quote]
This part I agree with. But there’s the second part in that the Taiwanese haven’t quite figured out how to practice democracy responsibly. It’s still immature. There’s a fine line between democracy and mob rule (see India). Hopefully they’ll get it soon.
Still, one should think that sitting around and waiting for shit to happen, shit will happen. And when it does, even though every one knows a train wreck is going to happen, do nothing about it. Typical Taiwanese mentality. Jesus H. Christ. Give credit though to Frank Hsieh for saying and doing the right things after the fact. When was the last time any one’s head rolled after a fiasco?
DPP should roll some more heads.
Regardless of how these politicians slag each other off and pass the buck, the police’s job is very clear. Maintain law and order. Prevent crimes from taking place and catch criminals after the fact, if they can’t prevent crime. At the airport they neither prevented crimes taking place, nor attempted to arrest anyone.
Crowd Dispersal 101
Need I go on? (Any copper worth his salt straight out of training school would know exactly what to do. Never mind the bleeding specialists in charge of the airport.) :loco:
Personally, I think the issue is that the Taiwanese politicians haven’t quite figured it out yet - not the Taiwanese people (yeah, I know the people are the ones that elected the politicians in the first place, but when the choice is between an idiot and an arsehole, waddya going to do?).
When was the last time you saw any politically-motivated violence in Taiwan where there wasn’t at least one member of the legislature present? They were in the thick of it yesterday, just like Chou Yi and friends were the main instigators of the post-election violence last year.
I don’t think there’s anything remarkable about the extremist supporters on either side in Taiwan - they’re as violent and moronic as in any country. Difference is, in Taiwan the politicians egg them on and the police (this time) don’t control them. Just imagine an anti-Iraq war rally meeting a pro-war rally in the US with (say) Howard Dean and Jeb Bush winding up their supporters - the violence would have been exactly the same.
The sooner the legislators learn that their job is to fight inside the legislature, not outside it the better (one step at a time and all that …)
Yeh, that DPP clown Wang was on TV a few days before the riots demonstrating just how to throw eggs, he even had a mockup glass window so the TV cameras could show what he would be up to on X-Day and sure enough, it happened. He should be but in jail for life! For egging on the KMT riffraff that he knew would come to CKS, too.
There’s a joke somewhere that Japanese men never mature past the age of 13, and that is why they are so sexually weird and juvenile on their fetishes and sex tours behavior.
Maybe there needs to be a new joke that Taiwanese men never mature past the age of 12, when they like to fight with baseball bats and slingshots. Grown men just do not do this!
I wonder if the Legistures that participated might had “pulled rank” on the police officers, undermining there ability to do their job in seperating the crowds.