[quote=“tommy525”][quote=“Blaquesmith”][quote=“tommy525”][quote=“Blaquesmith”]The taiwanese etiquette, or lack thereof, becomes evidentwhen you attend to a wedding and see guys with checkered shirts, no tie, no jacket, jeans, and either sneakers or flip-flops. I’ve seen guys wearing crocs at a wedding (not in mine, fortunately).
As for the women etiquette, if you hang near the discos and lounge bars, it’s difficult to tell which ones are escorts and which ones aren’t.[/quote]
True about lack of decor at weddings. But people are really only concerned about the fatness of the red envelope, not how you dress. If at my wedding reception in TW, I’d be impressed if you showed up in a tux but I’d be more impressed with 8000nt in the red envelope (which are all taken out and counted and recorded ). Wedding receptions are about M.O.N.E.Y.
FAIK, discos and lounges are not where the professionals ply their trade in Taiwan. They have “special” discos and lounges where they reside at. Have you not been to one?
The lack of dress at “regular” TW discos is a good thing. They may indicate the “success or failure” of your evening hunt for that lonely secretary that wants to let it all hang out?[/quote]
Well, considering I didn’t saw a dime of the red envelopes in our wedding in Taipei, I did care about how people was showing up. In my wedding in Barcelona, I took care of the money (both gifts and paying for the event) which was sent mainly by bank transfer. I still lost money because the 40+ taiwanese guests didn’t pay anything, saying that “they already had to pay for the plane ticket” (the wedding was just an excuse to do some tourism in Barcelona, Spain and/or France). Some of my wife’s family also decided to tag along in our honeymoon
And about the discos, consider that when I came to Taiwan I was already married and my wife pregnant, so, no discos whatsoever.[/quote]
Well Jesus Christ brother man. 40 plus of your guests can afford to come over from TW to Spain and onwards to other parts of Europe? They don’t sound like they are extremely poor do they? Your wife may have pocketed a nice little lumpsum (or her parents if they paid the bill on your TW wedding).
You being the foreign devil was simply kept out of the nitty gritty.
And Europeans don’t expect red envelopes do they? Aren’t they like Americans, where they get gifts but the groom (or maybe the bride’s family ) paid for the wedding reception?
at the tagging along on your honeymoon. I guess that is to be expected since they flew all the way out to see you guys.
Most of my friends would not come if they had to spend more then 100 bucks. And certainly wouldn’t be packing any red envelops either.[/quote]
Well, they said, since they were coming and spending so much on the ticket, they wouldn’t bring money gifts. When we usually attend to a wedding in Barcelona, we’re usually expected to at least cover our cost of attendance, so the newlyweds don’t lose money with it. At a little more than 100€ for each guest, the 40 taiwanese guests costed me about 4500€, and they were all on my wife’s side. Lucky me, some of my family paid more than usual, and that covered part of it, but in the end I still lost money (not to mention the money I lost in Taiwan’s wedding, having to give red envelopes to my wife’s family and bringing my parents, brother and his gf to Taiwan, and pay for their table).
The tagging along was really distasteful, being our honeymoon, specially the part when they got mad at us because we wanted to have an afternoon alone to take a stroll in Paris. Since they only spoke chinese, it seemed our obligation to accompany them at all times and make sure everything was perfect to their taste. The words “we come from so far to make this trip and you want to go on your own? You don’t know how to plan a trip!” Were uttered more than once, and if some of them hadn’t been family, my wife and me would probably have said “go f*ck yourselves” all of those times, but we tried as hard as possible to do not let them ruin our day (succeeded most of the time).
I don’t mind them wanting to go to Europe for a tourism trip, but almost all of the taiwanese guests had already been at our wedding in Taipei a month earlier, so they really didn’t need to come. And they didn’t need to complain all the time about how european restaurants don’t have hot soup in summer, and how good is the taiwanese food compared to the rest of the world’s food, and how bad were the hotel rooms in Venice, and how could we want to take a stroll next to the Seine instead of taking them to the Louvre.
Taiwan etiquette is an oxymoron.