Consumer Vouchers: Discrimination Against Foreigners

As you probably know, the Taiwan government will distribute NT$3600 in consumer vouchers each person in Taiwan today. I had originally thought that all foreigners living in Taiwan holding an Alien Resident Certificate would be eligible to receive the vouchers as Taiwan citizens, but later found out that only foreign spouses of Taiwan citizens are eligible. That leaves all of us unmarried foreigners and foreigners who are not married to Taiwan citizens ineligible to receive the vouchers, in spite of the fact that we are legally residing in Taiwan and pay taxes to the Taiwan government. My colleague called the Immigration Bureau on Saturday to ask why there is this discrepancy and was told that if the policy allowed all ARC holders in Taiwan to receive vouchers, that would include all foreign laborers, such as Thai and other migrant workers. In their mind, somehow, this seems to be an acceptable explanation.

I do not understand how their explanation can be so blatantly discriminatory. If the true purpose is the stimulate the economy, then ALL legal residents should receive such vouchers, even if they are foreigners, because the vouchers can only be spent in Taiwan (and even if they end up overseas, they must eventually flow back into the Taiwan economy before the spending deadline, otherwise they are valueless). If a Thai migrant worker ends up spending the voucher on snacks at the 7-11, that is still stimulating the economy. As for us expatriate legally residing in Taiwan, we pay taxes to the Taiwan government each year (as do the Thai and other migrant workers, I’m sure!) and on average, each expatriate probably pays more in taxes each year than the average Taiwan citizen, as expatriates tend to be in higher tax brackets. This policy is a big slap in the face of expatriates who pay taxes to the Taiwan government.

Even babies born in Taiwan before a certain date in March 2009 are eligible to receive the vouchers. Also, Taiwanese citizens who have moved abroad are told that they may come back to Taiwan and re-establish their household registration to receive the vouchers. This makes it is absolutely puzzling why any foreigner legally residing in Taiwan, whether a Thai migrant worker or an English teacher or a professional, is not eligible to receive the vouchers.

This is another instance of outright discrimination by the Taiwan government officials to whom “foreigner” simply means “Thai migrant worker”, and since the local mindset is so xenophobic, they give no further thought to the others affected by their decision. It is simple and easy (and frankly, lazy) for them to lump all “foreigners” together and then exclude them as a group. They lose no political capital for it because the local population could care less.

Furthermore, under the WTO rules, there is a basic concept is national treatment. That means that everyone is supposed to be treated the same regardless of passport. Foreigners here buy, sell, consume, pay taxes, and are held to the same laws but not the same benefits. It is blatant discrimination and violates the WTO rules.

NT$3600 is not a lot of money, and I certainly don’t need it, but the point is the Taiwan government yet again doesn’t care about the foreign community and is ignoring the fact that expatriates pay taxes in this country, too. I have lived in Taiwan for 10 years and am sad to see this type of mentality persist in the governmental bureaucracy, especially since Taiwan purports to sell itself to the world as being international-minded. I saw Mayor Hau Lung-Pin speak in English last year at an international gathering where he was trying to sell Taipei to be an international hub for multinational companies to locate their Asian headquarters. Why would any expatriate executive want to live in a country that discriminates against foreigners?

The Taiwan government thinks it is OK to discriminate against Thai laborers as a justification. This is offensive and shows that this government is not for ethnic harmony, rule of law and fairness. Shame on you, Ma Ying-Jeou! When you need help, you ask the foreign community to lobby for you, build your infrastructure, you tax them and then you discriminate against them. This is clearly a double standard.

why did you wait till to today to have this rant, when the vouchers have been printed and sent out and all the rest of it?

It’s a little late to do something about it now.

hahahahahaha…HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

I’m ok with it. :whistle:

[quote=“judgebao”]
Furthermore, under the WTO rules, there is a basic concept is national treatment. That means that everyone is supposed to be treated the same regardless of passport.[/quote]

Treated the same in what respect? It is evident that when it comes to immigration law people are not all treated the same regardless of passport.

When it comes to taxation, again, not everybody are treated the same regardless of passport. For instance, some countries have reciprocal agreement to avoid double taxation. Some do not. So if you take two guys who have worked the same amount of time for the same salary in a given country (other than their home country) and are on the same kind of work visa, it is possible that one is going to have to pay taxes in that country and his home country and the other will have to pay taxes only in his home country (because his country has a reciprocal agreement with the country he is visiting).

I think the way the Taiwanese government is implementing their voucher thing sucks but it is not clear to me that they are in violation of any international law. I could be convinced otherwise if someone wants to get into the details of the WTO rule on “national treatment”.

You chose to come here, you can also choose to leave and spend you money abroad. Some of us have no choice.

You haven’t made a huge commitment to Taiwan.

That’s a fair rant, I’d say, coming from someone who has lived and paid tax in Taiwan for the last ten years. “What can you do when you live in a shoe? Move to a boot and get laced.” :idunno:

marboulette

Judge Bao wrote: [quote] I have lived in Taiwan for 10 years [/quote]

Ten years and you’re not married to a local. It’s obvious that you are the one guilty of racial discrimination, not the government.

Legal foreign residents are not entitled to many of the benefits citizens have in the UK, even if they pay tax. I don’t think the situation you describe is at all unusual. At least we are allowed to participate in their subsidised National Health Insurance, a much more valuable benefit than a few vouchers.

Foreigners in the UK can get a National Health Insurance too, for free and immediately. I got one when on holiday in the UK one year when I had an allergy problem. Went to the doc’s fully expecting to pay for treatment, and they just enrolled me then and there and I saw a doctor for free.

That may be true, but the issue is that some taxpaying residents received vouchers while others did not. On the one had, the government tried to include foreign spouses on grounds that they were quasi-citizens since the vast majority of foreign wives from Southeast Asia and China intend to become citizens. However, this also gave vouchers to the much smaller number of male spouses from first world countries who mostly do not intend to become citizens.

On the other hand, the government apparently was very careful to exclude migrant workers despite the fact that they pay taxes and would have had to spend their vouchers here in Taiwan. This seems racist.

Unmarried permanent residents did not receive vouchers. However, Overseas Chinese with residence received vouchers regardless of marital status. This also seems racist.

to include every single ARC holder, I think the govt would of had to ask for more money and it would have stalled in the Yuan…and budgetary discrimination of this kind happens frequently in other countries…some much more severe, not just in Taiwan. And how do you set the cutoff point for the ARC tax payers, should people that had ARC just a couple of days get the vouchers too?

sorry to hear about this though, although to make you feel better, you wont have to serve a conscripted military term, defend the place, or worry about whether your spouse loves her green card more than you.

You think incorrectly. The voucher act permits the government to raise funds for by borrowing money. The government asked the Legislature not for a budget, but for an open check. Since the KMT controls all branches of government, an open check was written.

Just because people discriminate in other countries doesn’t mean that Taiwan should do it too. I pay taxes. I deserve my share of whatever the government spends on other taxpayers. The fact that I do not have politicla rights doesn’t enter into it.

Last time I checked, Taiwanese women don’t serve in the military or defend the country. They still get vouchers. And any prospective spouse interested in a green card would have turn tail and run long ago since it’s pretty clear that after nearly 20 years here I have no plans to return to the US.

It’s always a case of two steps forward, one step back, this is a step back.
I feel that it is very unfair and wrong as it should be whoever paid taxes should get the voucher, regardless of background. They should have set it up if you could have proven you had 3 years taxes paid up, much fairer.
I’m pissed off at it but unfortunately it doesn’t surprise me and as such I just don’t get angry at it anymore.
I think the 20% tax up front rule is worse though!

Sin loi…life can be a bitch can’t it? :smiley:

Its their playground…they make the rules.

I just leave lumpy “surprises” in the sandbox.

Ten years and you’re not married to a local. It’s obvious that you are the one guilty of racial discrimination, not the government.[/quote]
My Taiwanese partner and I can’t legally be married, unfortunately.

My key disappointment is that all of those many, many people who do not pay taxes still get the NT$3600. I am not complaining about those who are unemployed but specifically at those who simply evade taxes although employed and often making good or excellent money. There are too many cases of this. From small to medium size shops…to those working at home…to street vendors…so many are off the tax grid or employ the two books system. Honest tax payers (individuals and corporations) are paying more than their fair share. Check with your local friends’ families–you might be surprised.

Ten years and you’re not married to a local. It’s obvious that you are the one guilty of racial discrimination, not the government.[/quote]
My Taiwanese partner and I can’t legally be married, unfortunately.[/quote]

Lucky buggers! :wink:

Absolutely. About a third of the Taiwanese I know pay no tax, and most of the others pay much less than they should.

The government actually recognized this when they advised those non-registered businesses that, instead of redeeming vouchers they collect from customers, they should use said vouchers to purchase product from suppliers! :laughing:

It cost most of us more than $3600 to get married, so the OP is actually the one in the money on this issue. :laughing: