It’s quite easy to interpret it this way if we already have a preconceived idea of what we now want the message to be - very specifically. And with the benefit of hindsight. But what’s the overall tone of the article, keeping in mind where we were at the time it was written?
Quicker than our adaptive response. So, it is. Otherwise we would’ve been ready for these super slow mutations and no media + public + government panic is necessary.
Say that to people in Indonesia, inoculated mostly with communist vaccines.
But the same argument can be made with Corona in general. Death rate is pretty low unless you’re old or already sick. The danger is in how contagious it is.
Notice the choice of the terms ‘might’ and ‘diversity’. They purpose didn’t say: “We’ll have variants that would cause media to lose their heads and shit their pants - and cause you to be locked in without a definitive timeframe”.
Again, overall tone and context matter - at the time it was written.
I suppose so. But what’s happening with the variants, and some of the variants causing more trouble than others, pretty much corresponds to the sense I’ve had of what could happen for well over a year (based on what I’ve read - I have no expertise in this stuff). I guess some people got one interpretation from articles like that; I got a different one. My interpretation of what this article and others like it said a year ago corresponds with what’s happened.
The main incorrect “general impression” I’ve noticed was that vaccines would take 18-24 months, if they were possible at all. Very little else about the disease progress has come as much of a surprise based on what I’ve been reading.
I certainly never had the impression that you had of the “consensus” you claim existed of how “It doesn’t mutate.” There wereplentyofarticles last summer analyzing the mutations (mutations you claim scientists said didn’t exist): most of those articles say those mutations weren’t much to worry about (which turned out to be true), but they’re still discussing the mutations. (Key phrase from the last link: “Don’t work about a ‘new strain’ - at least not yet.”) I suppose you could read all those articles and think that means “Oh, the virus doesn’t change”, but that’s an … interesting … reading.
I’m also waiting for good articles to explain why places like India weren’t hit badly last year, but were hit badly this year. (I think Indonesia is similar?) That remains something of a mystery to me.
Eh, everything will have some parts of the media losing their heads and shitting their pants. I gather there’s a lot of that going on now, especially on TV and in the “media” of Facebook and YouTube or, god help us, Line groups. I’m not seeing it in stuff I’m reading, but I’m sure it’s out there.
My guy feeling has been climate as a main reason; the entire global south was mostly spared until the delta variant. Probably mobility makes a difference too (traveling to China early on, continuing local travel after community spread began), and other factors, but climate seems like an easy commonality across poor areas of the world that have been largely spared before delta.
I don’t see why this is the case, in the context of the sun everyone knows what this means and knows that this is the case. If you don’t want to argue semantics, don’t make semantic arguments.
Similarly in the context of your entire post the argument is not a semantic one, the problem is with your point which seems quite clear
There’s nothing to rebut. @Andrew wrote a convincing explanation. I accept his comment as a very plausible explanation.
Which is?
Right. If you disagree with what you think I’m saying, you call it a waffle and dismiss it. That’s also quite a popular routine these days isn’t it?
A less than popular approach is to give an Andrew-style thoughtful reply. Or a slightly less convincing but still well written reply like @lostinasia 's
That’s not technical. That is literally ABC starting with A.
That’s like debating the Superbowl game by first saying ‘we all use an oval ball’.
If you are going to make big claims about scientific stuff you really should learn something about it first right?
I for one am sick of the Trump style big claims, which mislead others on science and health , and then the crying when they are ripped to shreds …This stuff matters as we see from anti vaxxers…Anti everything crowd.
Yeah. It tells us that they’re worried about the number of anti-vaxxers and other covidiots out there.
I’ve never seen anything like this in my 20 years in health care," said Dr. Thomas Tobin, the chief medical examiner in Community Hospital in Grand Junction. “Pretty much everyone that’s coming into the hospital is unvaccinated. Some of those people swear they don’t believe in COVID all the way up to when they’re in their hospital room, strapped to machines.”
More than half the state’s 534 cases of the Delta variant are in Mesa County, where only 40 percent of people are fully vaccinated and 44 percent have gotten at least one dose, and hospitals are already nearing capacity.
“Our COVID-19 numbers are getting close to what we saw in November and December, when we had hit our apex, and the primary reason is people not getting vaccinated,” Tobin said. “We are frustrated, we’re tired, and it’s upsetting to look around our state and the country and see other places having to drop COVID-19 numbers while we are surging.”
They don’t. They choose to. Cause they’re locked down and have nothing better to do.
Well of course. To be convinced about nothing at all in the beginning is the way to go. And you go with the evidence.
Minor point, but my initial claim was on journalistic stuff. Not scientific stuff.
Well … uh … I don’t know what to say to this. Lol. Vaccines are bad, the earth is flat and corona is a lie - MAGA?? Don’t gang up on me cause I’ll cry into my white privilege if you rip me to shreds.
Anyway, sounds like you’ve got some unresolved issues with a group of people that you think I belong to (which I might ). And an online anonymous forum is definitely the best platform to resolve those issues. So, come on - let me have it.
). And an online anonymous forum is definitely the best platform to resolve those issues. So, come on - let me have it.