Coronavirus - Delta Variant

It’s still around in the community in Taiwan, though it is—at least for now—getting corralled.

About the above-named moronosa: there is no cure. You can just slow down its transmission by shutting down your computer or other device. :rofl:

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Reassuring bits of info on containment of the delta variant in Singapore and Israel:

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It is spreading…

And it has company, may not be the last:

grain of salt, need to see a peer review of this…thoughts?

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Probably should go in the Delta thread. As of now we only have Alpha in Taiwan.

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74% of 469 cases in clusters are fully vaccinated.

90% of 469 are delta.

median ct values of vaccinated and unvaccinated are not much different, 22.77 and 21.54.

4 of 5 hospitalized are fully vaccinated.

Fully vaccinated rate in that state is 63.9%.

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4 of 5 hospitalized are fully vaccinated.

say WHAT!?!?!?

I don’t know age distribution of cases. Could be vaccinated in that state are dominated by vulnerable people, or people in the cluster sites are dominated by vaccinated, but I don’t know.

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The Biden administration was pushing the idea of a vaccine mandate at a federal level. They’ve back off that a bit probably due it the vaccines not being FDA approved which would open the door for legal challenges. Interesting interview with Bret Baer and the CDC Director Dr. Walensky. Bret sits down with CDC Director Walensky (Part 1) - YouTube
Most of her answers made sense. Some of them were political dodges and needed some data to back it up.
The argument to get the vaccine seems to be “follow the science” but it seems the science is evolving.
I’m vaccinated and support getting the vaccine but stop short of a mandate. We are finding out that the vaccines may not be so effective.

That would be an. unusual stat for sure. All data I have seen points the opposite way at minimum.i.e. minimum 80% of hospitalised are unvaccinated , going up to high 90s %.

There could be a few reasons for this, such as a massively vaccinated study population.

Very elderly study population ?

Or there might be errors somewhere ?

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69 percent of the population were vaccinated.

It is a very odd statistic.

EDIT: only 5 people were hospitalised. 4 of them were fully vaccinated. No need to panic yet! I thought we were looking at 80 percent of a significant number.

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Most cases occurred in males (85%); median age was 40 years (range = <1–76 years)

One hospitalized patient (age range = 50–59 years) was not vaccinated and had multiple underlying medical conditions.†† Four additional, fully vaccinated patients§§ aged 20–70 years were also hospitalized, two of whom had underlying medical conditions.

During July 3–17, 2021, multiple summer events and large
public gatherings were held in a town in Barnstable County,
Massachusetts, that attracted thousands of tourists from across
the United States. Beginning July 10, the Massachusetts
Department of Public Health (MA DPH) received reports of
an increase in COVID-19 cases among persons who reside in
or recently visited Barnstable County

On
July 3, MA DPH had reported a 14-day average COVID-19
incidence of zero cases per 100,000 persons per day in residents
of the town in Barnstable County; by July 17, the 14-day
average incidence increased to 177 cases per 100,000 persons
per day in residents of the town

During July 10–26, using travel history data from the
state COVID-19 surveillance system, MA DPH identified
a cluster of cases among Massachusetts residents. Additional
cases were identified by local health jurisdictions through case
investigation.

So we don’t know what they were hospitalised for I guess. BD is right …It’s a ridiculously small number to base anything on.

I think it will become a standard anti-vaxxer meme now.

We’ll be seeing 80 percent quite frequently.

It looks possible that vaccines don’t particularly reduce transmission, if at all.

I hope people are going to be logical about this. Vaccines were always about reducing hospitalisations and deaths. Cases were in reality actually going to increase once countries reached high levels of vaccination coverage and then opened up, regardless of the propaganda people have been fed. The obsession with cases has to end, or we’ll be in lockdown groundhog day forever. With hindsight some might say we only needed to vaccinate those at high-risk, except a lot of us were saying that last year.

I didn’t get a pointless prick stuck in my arm for nothing.

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Queensland just locked down around 3 million people for 6 new cases. They have over 1000 ICU beds. They have a single person in one of those ICU beds with Covid.

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Fully vaccinated rates are Israel 61.5%, UK 55.5, Singapore 54.0%, US 49.0%, at this moment.

Israeli health officials have said 60% of current hospitalized COVID-19 cases are in vaccinated people. Most of them are age 60 or older and often have underlying health problems.

Public Health England said on Friday that of a total of 3,692 people hospitalized in Britain with the Delta variant, 58.3% were unvaccinated and 22.8% were fully vaccinated.

In Singapore, where Delta is the most common variant, government officials reported on Fridaythat three quarters of its coronavirus cases occurred among vaccinated individuals, though none were severely ill.

In the United States, which has experienced more COVID-19 cases and deaths than any other country, the Delta variant represents about 83% of new infections. So far, unvaccinated people represent nearly 97% of severe cases.

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In other words, the vaccines are doing what they are supposed to be doing: preventing severe illness. With vaccines, people still catch the virus, but the body is far better equipped to fight it off. So it ends up being a far milder illness experience than it would be without the vaccine.

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For older people, maybe. I’m not sure whether it is meaningful to vaccinate younger healthy people, when vaccinated people also carry and spread the virus.

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The more people we vaccinate, the sooner we get to herd immunity, the sooner the pandemic ends, and the sooner we can get back to normal.