My guess is that on day 6 he/she went immediately to the local dance hall and has been regularly dancing since then.
Or: the imported case from India was infected a while ago in India (hardly unlikely), arrived with a bogus negative PCR test result (also hardly unlikely), did the quarantine time upon arrival, completed the business in Taiwan—and then needed a new PCR test in Taiwan to travel out, in which the old infection became clear.
Guy
Different virus
Various COVID-19 prevention measures to be implemented and enforced in Taoyuan, which has once again been the center of recent clusters:
Guy
How about instituting a two-month ban on people coming in from Indonesia and the Philippines (where most imported cases come from), and India (currently surging), followed by only allowing vaccinated people into Taiwan? How about vaccinating all airline staff?
As I said before, they are busing the airline staff now. Their category opened up just a couple weeks ago.
Remember vaccination is voluntary. So even if your category is up, you may or may not take it.
Unless you want the government to institute a vaccine or no fly rule? It might get to that, but not without opposition.
Which is why we have people from Indonesia and Filipinas coming in. We need them.
I mean an 8% growth is not going to keep growing by itself, right?
Lockout and lockdown are out if the question at this moment. But OTOH it would be nice if Taiwan people would get all in the same page, take proper precautions…and realize the danger requires being truthful and respecting the law, whether it is quarantine or labor laws.
For example, as per this article, the doctor who saw the hotel manager at the local clinic claims that he asked the protocol questions to the manager: travel history, contact with cases, job description… And that the other guy did not say. That’s weird if true. OTHO they knew each other before…so the article says…
There goes my snobbery towards all my foreigner friends. 
I was in Ximen Dien tonight. 90% of people were wearing masks. 8% of those who weren’t, were stupid old people who think they’re going to live forever, and 2% young adults who don’t give a fuck if their grandparents die.
well, if you think about it, at least the young people and the old people are on the same page. Not often that that happens, eh?
I fail to see the logic. Old people are stupid. Kids are arrogant. No correlation.
Ah the generational divide! Here it means arriving at bad decisions but through different routes. 
Guy
I say extend the visas of Indonesians and Filipinos already here. Yes, we need them, but there’s a pandemic going on.
Airline staff should be required to be vaccinated because they are at the interface of international travel. Medical personnel should also be required to be vaccinated since they’re at the front lines of treatment. Screw “voluntary”: there’s a pandemic we are trying to end so we can reopen the world. This is a matter of “have to”; the alternative would be a decade of this “new normal” none of us want.
I hate that expression “new normal” (nothing personal @Chris ) - one of those irritating business-speak expressions like “leveraging”
They’re both making the (correct) assessment that their chances of dying from COVID-19 is somewhat less than the chance of being struck by lightning (which, interestingly enough, is about one in a million in any given year - I actually know someone who had a near-miss). I’d say it’s the young people who think they’re going to live forever, and the old people who know that they’re not.
On that basis, they’ve decided not to wear a mask while out and about. It’s not a “bad” or “stupid” decision. It’s just a decision, based on their realistic assessment of risks and their personal values. As afterspivak said, same outcome, different routes to get there.
That’s no excuse! His mistake was assuming only people in high risk professions or with travel history can get covid, and ignoring the possibility of a local infection. I hope the patient’s family sues him for malpractice.
Interestingly, even Health minister Chen says they cannot force foreign carrier pilots to be tested.
And while these measures are primarily enforced in Taoyuan, me thinks we could all be a bit more cautious.
Exactly! It’s not bad or stupid. It’s bad and stupid.
Only if you you consider that wearing a mask on the street makes a virtually-impossible event even less possible.
I assume you wear yours while eating, sleeping, and sitting on the toilet, and every other possible opportunity? They have to be taken off sometimes, and when you do that boils down to a judgement call.
Don’t assume people are stupid just because they assign different weights (compared to yours) to highly-unlikely events. Masks have some effect, but don’t imagine they’re the reason Taiwan is COVID-free. If Taiwan wants to stay COVID-free, the main risk is letting random travellers wandering around when they have a high probability of being carriers. The local population are, almost by definition, COVID-free; the chance of a non-mask-wearer causing transmission is therefore as close to zero as you’re likely to get.
Very true. But we are talking about someone who put themselves in a position of risk. They knowingly entered a residence where someone who was in quarantine was staying. Therefore the risk was not equal to zero it was greater than zero. Said person then visited popular places with out a mask.
Therefore a series of bad decisions lead to a bad outcome. Surprise face.
I thought jimi was talking about random people out on the street. In the scenario you mention, of course that would be extremely irresponsible. Hence the need for judgement and getting people to understand why the rules are in place, and when it’s crucially important to follow them.