Coronavirus Taiwan Open - April-June 2022

[QuaSaShao]

@Andrew

Oh, I don’t care what you do

Likewise. What happens to those who choose not to follow pandemic precautions in this and future pandemics is just background noise to me now.

[DrewC]

@QuaSaShao

Excellent. That means no more hectoring about choosing to wear masks and get boosters then, right?

Anyone who cares whether you do that or not, and yet whines about mask mandates or vaccine mandates, is a bit of a hypocrite.

[Malasang88]

@QuaSaShao

@papertowel

@QuaSaShao

If it’s okay with everyone

Good news! Just got off the phone with everyone and they’re fine with it!

Excellent. That means no more hectoring about choosing to wear masks and get boosters then, right?

Hopefully not IRL. I wore a mask everywhere indoors in the US last month and nobody bothered me.

I suspect on here though you’ll still get a few posts five pages long about how it’s destroying society.

[TaipAmy]

The pandemic is already endemic…
Therefore, over.

[DrewC]

Not a fan of these labels. Pandemic vs Endemic forces one to choose a side. I feel like we’re more in a rocky transition period, but I suppose closer to endemicity.

[lostinasia]

@DrewC

Not a fan of these labels. Pandemic vs Endemic forces one to choose a side.

Plus words do have meaning. Malaria and AIDS are endemic in some places of the world - it doesn’t mean people in those countries can ignore them. All endemic means is it’s not going away. (“Oh, why should I use a mosquito net? Malaria’s endemic here!”)

Endemic also means the numbers of infected are stable - not going up much, not going down much. That definitely does not apply for COVID in Taiwan, not yet.

[BiggusDickus]

@lostinasia

@DrewC

Not a fan of these labels. Pandemic vs Endemic forces one to choose a side.

Plus words do have meaning. Malaria and AIDS are endemic in some places of the world - it doesn’t mean people in those countries can ignore them. All endemic means is it’s not going away. (“Oh, why should I use a mosquito net? Malaria’s endemic here!”)

Endemic also means the numbers of infected are stable - not going up much, not going down much. That definitely does not apply for COVID in Taiwan, not yet.

Who’s saying ignore Covid?

Ok, I could argue that wearing a mask is inadequate. We should all be wearing hazmat suits. Or, even better, staying indoors permanently.

There is a point where the fear ends. It’s already happened with malaria and AIDS.

[afterspivak]

@QuaSaShao

I may sneak in an annual Covid booster too if I can do it without triggering anyone

Getting a booster? Taking precautions? Stop “cowering in fear,” man!

Guy

[finley]

@Andrew

It also seems like the 2.8 million (known) people who’ve caught it in Taiwan during the last two months were able to catch the sniffles perfectly well while wearing masks pretty much everywhere, so…

And funnily enough, I’ve stubbornly avoided doing everything the CDC says is good for me, whenever possible, and I too somehow managed to avoid catching anything resembling the sniffles for two whole years. My run of luck was broken by something that might or might not have been omicron, and that was basically gone within 48 hours.

[BiggusDickus]

@afterspivak

@QuaSaShao

I may sneak in an annual Covid booster too if I can do it without triggering anyone

Getting a booster? Taking precautions? Stop “cowering in fear,” man!

Guy

How is getting a booster “cowering in fear”?

I’ve had three vaccination shots. I had no fear about any of them. I also didn’t consider them to be particularly helpful. Taking them improved my quality of life somewhat

[BiggusDickus]

@finley

. My run of luck was broken by something that might or might not have been omicron, and that was basically gone within 48 hours.

I would place money on it being Omicron.

Everyone I know who has caught it has either had virtually no symptoms, or flu like symptoms for two days. Then, like magic, it disappears.

I know nobody who has been hospitalised. I know nobody who has long Covid. And I know a lot of people who have had it.

[KHHville]

One might conjecture, and I may tend to agree, that long Covid is just another thing for Big Pharma to scare people about and then to take some medicine they’ve suddenly created to “lower” chances, not get rid of the bogeyman.

[TaipAmy]

Unless you get the sore throat it’s almost nothing. The sore throat is pretty brutal, but only 2 of the 9 people in our family guy it.

[BiggusDickus]

@TaipAmy

Unless you get the sore throat it’s almost nothing. The sore throat is pretty brutal, but only 2 of the 9 people in our family guy it.

My diarrhea was pretty spectacular. It was like Niagara Falls for a day

[TaipAmy]

My little nephew was like that. About 24 hours of constant diarrhea and vomiting and then completely normal. I was most concerned about him, just due to dehydration.

[KHHville]

@BiggusDickus

@TaipAmy

Unless you get the sore throat it’s almost nothing. The sore throat is pretty brutal, but only 2 of the 9 people in our family guy it.

My diarrhea was pretty spectacular. It was like Niagara Falls for a day

I think the same for the missus, and she was throwing up a few times, too.
24 hours later. Nothing. Didn’t test as none to find.

[BiggusDickus]

@TaipAmy

My little nephew was like that. About 24 hours of constant diarrhea and vomiting and then completely normal. I was most concerned about him, just due to dehydration.

I could see how it could take out somebody already weak. It was diarrhea like nothing I’ve experienced before, and I’ve had the two-bob-bits many times.

You would have thought the obese would benefit from it, though

[finley]

@BiggusDickus

I know nobody who has been hospitalised. I know nobody who has long Covid. And I know a lot of people who have had it.

Yeah, same here. I know a couple of people who had a rough time with omicron - all except one of them fully vaccinated - but I haven’t even heard of anyone (friends of friends) who had any lasting effects, and like you I can probably now count about 30 people within my circle who have had it. They were a bit ill, and then they got better.

To be fair I haven’t heard of anyone who had any serious effects from vaccination either (beyond an unpleasant day or two comparable to … uh, catching omicron). But there have been at least two people on here who have posted about having side effects unpleasant enough to be frightening.

@KHHville

One might conjecture, and I may tend to agree, that long Covid is just another thing for Big Pharma to scare people about and then to take some medicine they’ve suddenly created to “lower” chances, not get rid of the bogeyman.

This claim is definitely being made. However, since it doesn’t seem necessary to have actually been ill with COVID to subsequently get “long COVID”, one wonders what the actual mechanism of action might be.

[BiggusDickus]

@KHHville

@BiggusDickus

@TaipAmy

Unless you get the sore throat it’s almost nothing. The sore throat is pretty brutal, but only 2 of the 9 people in our family guy it.

My diarrhea was pretty spectacular. It was like Niagara Falls for a day

I think the same for the missus, and she was throwing up a few times, too.
24 hours later. Nothing. Didn’t test as none to find.

It went so quickly. Woke up on the third day and I had no symptoms other than a bit of a cough

[BiggusDickus]

@finley

To be fair I haven’t heard of anyone who had any serious effects from vaccination either (beyond an unpleasant day or two comparable to … uh, catching omicron). But there have been at least two people on here who have posted about having side effects unpleasant enough to be frightening.

Indeed. Presley almost died by all accounts

I’ve yet to hear anything first hand about something awful Omicron related.