Had the last curve a short time ago.
Nothing but luck.
It was doing many of the rights things.
On top of that, on a population level (I am not talking about individual decisions here, I am speaking more broadly) we have elected to get vaccinated at very decent rate, hopefully stopping mild or even asymptomatic cases from getting worse.
The unvaccinated elderly, as we know, are the exception to this general trend.
Guy
Nothing changed. If anything the ârightâ behaviours were relaxed. Vaccination rates over the past few months? What?
Well population level vaccination rates in Taiwan are relatively high, especially compared to nations I watch in North America. Where we did relatively poorly was in getting the elderly vaccinated, especially compared to more âhigh trustâ nations such as NZ and Australia.
In addition, other mitigation measures have not simply been tossed away, as @TTâs post illustrates. The general picture here looks about as good as we could have hoped (except, again, for the death rate among the elderly).
Guy
Yes, pre-covid i was more likely to complain 
The Karen Konvoy did bring things into sharper focus, didnât it.
Guy
I honestly canât understand why anyone can look at that âcurveâ and (a) believe that it contains any information about the impact of covid and (b) imagine that its shape has anything to do with the laughable machinations of the cecc.
Weâre all discussing this graph, yeah?
I am. And why? @TT asked about the announced changes scheduled on October 13. That graph gives a glimpse of why liberalization is comingâand how things could go off the rails, if infection numbers spike, as this is what the CECC has said.
In short: itâs relevant to a query by a forumosan. And itâs relevant to upcoming shifts in policy.
Guy
People stopped reporting it when they got it. Donât believe me? Talk to the people around you.
The curve flattens right out when people donât have insurance payouts coming and people start realising that for most people, it isnât serious.
Oh and of course the hand washing. Ha ha ha ha
Edit. Just washed my hands in Costco. One out of five other people used soap.
Well, holy fuck we flattened the curve.
Assuming the curve is of any relevance what recent measures that should flatten it happened? Non-reporting would be the largest, for sure.
I suspect that being so soon after the Omicron wave, a bunch of people still have antibodies from that. Just a pet theory.
What we are looking at is an apparent flattening curve of cases
Yes. And while youâre at it (talking to people around you, that is), roughly estimate in your mind what percentage of people in any given group have already gotten covid. One group at work, for example, is 6 out of 8 (75%).
Didnât need shots or pcr to enter ER. Needed them to stay over and take care of the sick person (because nurses dont here). Because the pcr testing stops at 5 and I had arrived after that, I couldnât get one. The relative was near dead, in fact die on my shift overnight, so the nurse was nice and gave me a rapid and asked me to get a pcr the following morning. In that way I could take care of him without the pcr, but only in that circumstance. after died we were still there till soonish doing paperwork, they had the sense not to ask me to leave and get the pcr. The nurses were quite nice.
Also, I need them for myself to get medical attention. It is serious and urgent, but not an emergency in the sense I dont need to go through the ER. In this sense if I were poor or wanted to refuse, I wouldnt be permitted. Itâs not the hill Iam dieing on because Ireally need to get checked out. But it does raise many questions and concerns!
This is at Gao Yi in Kaohsiung for referrence.
there is a curtain⌠well, not in ER sometimes.
the silver lining is their benches act as a semi comfortable bed. Not clean, but who cares.
Apart from the inherent problems with the concept of âexcess mortalityâ, the title is wrong. Itâs raw deaths. Wonder when weâll find out what caused the 2022 jump. Same thing is happening elsewhere.
There does seem to be a strangely long lag between cases and deaths. I thought it was normally two weeks.