Vitamin D isn’t in itself a cure or a substitute for getting vaccinated obviously. But I do think it’s a helpful supplement.
1 Like
Your think but you don’t know.
Sorry to put it so bluntly. And it’s a supplement for what exactly ?
And I thought vit D really meant LSD all this time. Now I’m disappointed. 
1 Like
I thought scientists classify it as a hormone that’s responsible for calcium absorbtion.
The only thing we really know about vitamin D (beyond the really chronic deficiency cases) is that it is a biomarker for poor health and early mortality IF you already have an existing serious chronic disease.
There is absolutely no solid proof that supplementation can fix that. Because it is a marker of poor health not the cause of the poor health.
Much like the sight of bones and a skeleton are the marker of death and not the cause of it.
There’s no harm in boosting your Vit d levels but it’s not causing nor fixing the vast majority of ill health out there. Nor is it curing you of covid.
5 Likes
Says you!
(EDIT: Argh, that’s supposed to be a gif, but oh well. OK, go with the below as well.)
6 Likes
That must have been the best comparison ever, followed by the best rebuttal ever.
You two made my day!
There’s so much bullshit claims out there… Even on the CNA news website (Taiwan government news Agency) there are “taboola network” advertisements for almost surely bogus health claims like “cleansing” by using ancient Japanese foot stickers that suck out through your foot skin all bad stuff from your body, or drinks that cleanse your kidneys:
4 Likes
Vitamin D deficiency seems to correlate with symptomatic COVID. See study:
And what’s with the attitude? I’m on your side. In no way, should anyone argue it’s a replacement for getting vaccinated. But there are other things people can do that can further limit their risks or severity of symptoms. You shouldn’t have a kneejerk hostile reaction to that.
1 Like
Brian is simply explaining a common misperception. It’s not attitude; it’s clarification.
Agree however that we should try to keep ourselves in good shape, and getting vitamins is part of that.
Guy
3 Likes
For once I actually agree (somewhat) with Brianjones: lack of vitamin D is probably a proxy for poor health, not the cause of it exactly (although obviously there’s a chicken-and-egg scenario there). Vitamin supplementation in general doesn’t have a great track record.
That’s not to say it’s pointless to try supplements if you’re in a COVID “at risk” group. There’s evidence of at least modest benefit and no reason to expect harm. It’s just perhaps more accurate to say that if you have vit. D deficiency, there are probably other issues that need solving.
I notice there are adverts everywhere for magic sprays that kill COVID viruses. People love their chemicals here.
1 Like
But doesn’t vit D absorbtion through food suck anyways? Better just to get a little sun.
Exactly. Humans seem to source most of their vit. D from the stuff they synthesize for themselves. And we’re not allowed to go out without a mask, which sucks all the fun out of it and makes people less likely to go outside.
The dentist-in-chief is following the science again!
plus zinc, but take a bit of copper supplement with it
Harryharryharryhauson, or something. So much better than CGI.
1 Like
This study was adjusted for loads of factors, and still shows a clear correlation between hospitalization and vitamin D levels up to 60ng/ml
Also the studies of calcifediol, activated Vitamin D given in high doses to sick people have shown clear benefits, and there are actually many such studies.
There simply has been no RCT with dose over 400-800IU for Supplementation so far on a larger scale. The British RCT with supplementation should benefit but was not significant. However they used 400 or was it ,800 IU as dose, so was too little.
It is generally accepted that vitamin D lowers inflammation, so there is good reason to believe it helps.
Plus it’s really cheap. The main cost is the packaging and distribution.
Plus already there are loads of people deficient, and it’s generally accepted consensus that children need to be supplemented to at least 20ng/ml so they don’t get crickets. There is no discussion on that point. The thing is, that somehow this 20ng/ml, sometimes 30 was deemed as enough without any further long term supplemtation RCTs… on general health. And if you just supplement a very low dosese it will likely lead to non significant results… Easy to test Vitamin D to not significant that way.
Vitamin D is a hormone, not w Vitamin. Most Vitamin we do really have enough. Especially vitamin C which is added as conservative to loads of foods (it’s the cheapest one more or less - many companies like nestle have a whole department working on how to convince governments to add more vitamin C to products or to new products. It’s cheap and customers wanna buy it…).
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pmc/articles/PMC6431073/
Article about vitamin D deficiencies in Taiwan, however looking then at other research you won’t find any developed country except Norway that has higher levels.
3 Likes
That sounds quite unpleasant! 
I thought vitamin D also affects your mood and depression.
1 Like
Yup, Jason and the Argonauts.
2 Likes
As I seem to have kicked off an interesting discussion about Vitamin D, I’d like to add my motivation to mention Vitamin D.
Vitamin D is free and readily available, your body produces this when exposed to UVB Light… and yes it is an essential vitamin. How essential… you can debate further.
Of course you can take in supplement form, and these have their use too… but mostly are of very limited benefit, except if you are a Pharmaceutical company (these guys are all encompassing and all powerful).
My point… in this supposed global health crisis, Governments around the world decided to deprive Citizens of free and essential Vitamins, as well as depriving them of many other free and essential requirements - oxygen, freedom of movement, companionship spring initially to mind… now of course most at risk are freedom of expression, bodily autonomy, privacy)
With so many basic essentials forcibly removed… is it any wonder that people appear ill? Do you wonder why those in Power, continue to Party, grow richer, travel globally without Quarantine, never wear face masks?
Brian… this goes back to my cynicism over your ‘all about Healthcare’ comment… it really isn’t. None of this is about healthcare.
I’m sure some (or most) of you will have opposing opinions, which is fine… much better to debate than simply to hate (hate and extreme polarisation of populations is part of the big plan)
I hope, with this message, to clarify my position a little, and maybe to encourage a few people to think deeper and evaluate the world around them… before committing us all to a world that nobody ever wants, and one from which nobody can return.
I’m sure my words will create some resentment, and I’m holding tight for your replies… but my intentions are surely not to generate any hatred or division. If you all consider my opinions a load of BS, that’s fine too
5 Likes
A number of other studies made similar reports, though it is only a Spanish study, conducted in early September, that came close to incontrovertibly proving low vitamin D levels have a pivotal role in causing increased death rates. There, 50 patients with Covid-19 were given a high dose of vitamin D, while another 26 patients did not receive the nutrient. Half of patients who weren’t given vitamin D had to be placed in intensive care, and two later died. Only one patient who received vitamin D required ICU admission, and they were later released with no further complications.