To all the Canadians here, are you going to Canada for this summer?
If not then thatâs OK as long as you get the chance to stay in Taiwan
longer.
For me, I got 2 job offers in Canada. I accepted one of them and I will
accept the other (before the May 10th deadline). If my school or office
of education does not renew my contract, then thatâs OK because I will
still have a job in Canada to go to. The issue is I will have to deal with the
red tape for getting clearance for the 14 day quarantine, and the on-arrival
PCR test at the airport in Canada. If my employer does offer me the chance
to renew my contract, then I will have a tough decision to make.
But it does not matter if you will remain working in Taiwan or not, you
still have to go through the red tape regarding COVID-19 testing. If you
donât want to deal with it, then as long as you can stay here, then stay here.
I donât know. Iâm doing what I can now to get vaccinated. In June and July Iâll see what the regulations are and how they will have changed. If I buy a ticket itâll be far more last minute than usual.
My guess is that Canada will have loosened requirements for the vaccinated by then, and Taiwan wonât have changed anything because the vaccination rate here will remain a rounding error, but itâs all just a guess.
First of all, if I were you I would not trust the AstraZeneca Vaccine they have here in Taiwan although you may only have a 4 in 10 million chance (whatever the ratio is) of getting a blood clot.
Second, the vaccination rollout here in Taiwan seems to be, or is perhaps more slower than Canada, so I wouldnât count getting vaccinated here.
Third, I donât know how it will be this summer, but so far anybody who arrives in Canada being vaccinated will not be exempt from the PCR tests and quarantine. If thatâs how it is, then I would rather go back to Canada unvaccinated with a negative PCR test result.
I am not expecting this to stabilize this September because the vaccination rate in Canada is slow, slower than the USA. There are some people who will refuse the vaccination because the vaccines in truth are not fully approved by the FDA next door in the USA, and there are just some people who are completely reluctant to getting the vaccine.
Because it makes no sense for you to go through all that extra scrutiny if you are already vaccinated. If air passengers are already vaccinated, all they have to do is wear a mask on the plane (except for when eating), and when they enter another the country, show an official document to prove that this person is vaccinated. Thatâs what Canada should do, but no, Canada is not giving exemptions for the vaccinated. Therefore if thatâs how they want to be, then I might was well go back to Canada unvaccinated with a mask on my face.
Youâre not me. You want to face the higher risk of Covid versus the lower risk from the Astrazeneca vaccine, you go right ahead. If youâre insinuating that the vaccine âthey have here in Taiwanâ is somehow not the genuine AstraZeneca vaccine and I shouldnât trust it, then you should provide at least some evidence before spreading that kind of rumor about the safety of vaccines in Taiwan. Why would you trust the AstraZeneca youâre quite likely to get in Canada more than the one youâd get here in Taiwan?
Note that the AstraZeneca vaccine has been rolled out in Canada and has been quite popular with my demographic. The Canadian government trusts it, while acknowledging the very real but very small risks. Of course, thatâs not the be all and end all.
Thatâs interesting logic. âVaccines here are unsafe. And theyâre rolling out too slowly.â Unsure what you mean here. Note that refusing to take the vaccine here is a pretty good guarantee that youâre not going to get vaccinated here. I guess it comes down to âTaiwan will give me a vaccine, but I donât like it, so I canât get a vaccine here.â
Canada is doing OK. Iâve seen some projections that Canada will actually overtake the USA in a month or two, because the rates of vaccine-unwillingness are higher in the US. US rate seems to be slowing down, anyway. No one knows whatâs going to be happen this summer - but I think thereâs a non-zero chance of a relatively normal summer this year. If the situation is such that Iâm unable to get there, so be it, but right now the only thing I have any control over is whether or not I get a vaccine. So, Iâve had the first shot of the vaccine. Iâm doing what I currently can to make it more likely to see my family this summer.
Thatâs your decision. Personally I feel that if Iâm vaccinated, Iâll be less risk to myself, my students in Taiwan, others on any future flights, and people I see in Canada. Summerâs a couple of months away - things could change a lot in that time.
Not yet. Youâre making big assumptions about what will be happening in a few months. Itâs just four days ago that it started to look like the EU will let in vaccinated American tourists this summer.
Again, interesting logic. âCanada doesnât give me any perks if I protect myself and those I care about from the virus - so why should I make myself safer?!â
I did not literally say that the vaccines are unsafe. I just cannot trust the AstraZeneca vaccine if there was less than a hand full of people who got blot clots. Just suppose I get vaccinated with the AstraZeneca vaccine and I get a blood clot? You think I can file a lawsuit if that blood clot causes me some really bad health problems? I am not being an anti-vaxxer, all I am saying is that you cannot unvaccinate yourself once you get that jab. Besides, the COVID vaccines were not yet fully approved by the FDA.
Letâs try to stay on topic.
Yes, we know whatâs going on, and yes it is a mess in Canada because of
people being non-compliant, and the governments in the federal and
provincial levels being senseless.
As I said I got 2 job offers in Canada, however if my employer gives me
a chance to renew my contract here in Taiwan, what would you rather do
if you were in my shoes?
Stay there. TBH, we donât need more people here who are more worried about an infinitesimally small chance that something may happen and their ability to sue vs getting our numbers down so we can have a decent summer. There will be enough problems with people already here who wonât get vaccinated based on: clots, 5G, Bill Gates, and/or the zombie apocalypse âŚ
Just so you know, I am not one of these QAnon fools that follow false and baseless conspiracy theories. I am willing to take the vaccine but not too soon.
Define âtoo soonâ ⌠we could all sit here waiting around, and be in this for another year or more (with a much greater chance of catching COVID).
I donât get yearly flu shots, see a doctor only when absolutely necessary, and rely on eating (predominantly) nutritious food and regular exercise to stay healthy. As soon as a vaccine was available, I got it (AZ).
You just need to compare the risks of getting clots by AZ, and getting covid19 (which could be avoided by AZ) in Canada before you would get a different vaccine. Of course, there are risks of covid19 which may not be avoided by AZ, etc., and you could be asymptomatic or it could become very severe, so you should consider everything to make a decision.
