Do they have better insurance/sick pay?
I wonder how many cases we would have if everyone could get a week off with pay.
I got the impression when I reported my case that the government doesnāt really have the capacity to do much after the initial report. Itās possible that it varies by district and/or that I just slipped through the cracks, perhaps on account of being younger and lower risk or needing an English speaker to call me, but after my initial report I didnāt have any further contact with the local health office, CDC, or responsible doctor that I didnāt initiate (and that was only to get the quarantine notice revised ā nobody showed any interest at all in my symptoms or whether Iād recovered).
Had I required medical treatment, I guess I would have needed to arrange it myself. If Iād just suddenly died, I think Iād still be here with the government none the wiser. (Well, hopefully one of my simultaneously sick friends would have wondered why Iād stopped answering. 
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We didnāt have a long conversation about it, but I gathered the doctor was trying to stress the āthey wonāt care what happens to youā aspect of it, rather than the issue of being quarantined. In other words, if you need medical treatment while infected, whether COVID-related or not, you wonāt get it. IIRC it was @TaipAmy who experienced precisely this problem first-hand.
Just when I was starting to forget about it! 
I do feel hopeful Iāll be okay after a couple more surgeries though.
Ah, sorry! I only tagged you because I wasnāt 100% sure if it was you or not. Really hope thereās no lasting damage from that episode.
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So South Korea is going from ātest-flight-testā to āflight-testā?
Sounds like a bit of an economic trap - instead of testing positive in your home country, test positive over here!
Spend your money in our government quarantine 
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That was my thought. Iām guessing most people wonāt want to risk it.
Yeah, I really wanted to go to do the Four Rivers cycle from Incheon to Busan, but I donāt have time if I lose a week to self-isolation (well, i could do it in seven days but thatās no fun)
Iāll just go somewhere else which is more open and enjoy seven days more cycling.
So . . . Trans-Siberia?
Or dodge-the-lockdowns from Shanghai to Shenzhen? 
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Canāt you just go if you know you donāt have Covid? Itās not like you will suddenly turn positive once you enter Korea.
How would he know for certain?
He could use a rapid test here first I suppose. But plenty of people test positive after testing negative before a flight.
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For Japan, thatās actually a big change.
I have begun planning my trip to NYC around Thanksgiving time and holy fuck, the hotel rates are absolutely insane. Anything less than $100/night is a bed at a hostel and any decent-looking hotel is at least $150/night. 
Basically same in London. I booked my room back in june, going there tomorrow, anything below 100 quid was wither a crack-joint or a hostel. Had to go to Greenwich to find a humble Travelodge for 70Ā£ a night. Insane, now prices even worse with the Queen funeralā¦
Canāt recall it being cheaper than that in the year pre-Covid. NYC is fucking expensive. Thatās why people rather go to Bakersfield.
I checked lodgings in London and itās a lot cheaper. Still very expensive though. I visited London early 2020 and I got a very good deal at a decent hotel near Paddington. It was like barley Ā£40 a night and breakfast was included.
Please keep the discussion to traveling here.
Thanks yāall!
Any recent experiences crossing the Pacific on American airlines? Iām thinking food and overall comfort. Iāve been told upgrade to business is useless: bad food and service in both cabins. Yet, if offers the best deal in terms of easy transfer for the rest 12 hours of flightā¦
Has anyone used EVA or CAās mileage tickets before? Or better yet, is anyone ā¦ selling mileage?