Dapu Incident

Protesters in Taipei demand apology for Dapu demolitions

CNA 2013-07-24 12:14 (GMT+8)
Civic groups and Dapu residents took part in the protest in Taipei on July 23. (Photo/CNA)
Civic groups and Dapu residents took part in the protest in Taipei on July 23. (Photo/CNA)

Several civic groups staged a protest on Katagalan Boulevard in Taipei on Tuesday, demanding that the government apologize for the forced demolition of four homes in the village of Dapu in northern Taiwan’s Miaoli county.

The protesters, from the Dapu Self-Help Organization, the Alliance for the Defense of Farming Villages, and Taiwan Rural Front, said if the government does not meet their demands by Aug. 18, they will call on the public to “demolish” the government.

President Ma Ying-jeou, Vice President Wu Den-yih, Premier Jiang Yi-huah, and Miaoli county magistrate Liu Cheng-hung must apologize to the owners of the four demolished homes, the demonstrators said.

They also called on the central government to investigate an alleged hike in land prices by Liu in Maioli county.

The central government should amend the Land Expropriation Act and suspend all land acquisitions nationwide until then, the protestors said.

Carrying banners that read “demolish the burglar-like government,” the protesters shouted “apologize, compensate, return the land to the owners, investigate scandals and amend laws.”

Taiwan Rural Front spokesperson Frida Tsai said Taipei turned a blind eye to the demolition of the homes and allowed the county government to go through with it.

On July 18, four homes in Dapu were demolished to make way for a science park that is being built by the county government.

The demolition was carried out while Dapu residents and civic groups were protesting that morning in Taipei. The home owners returned in the evening to find their houses reduced to rubble.

The civic groups at Tuesday’s protest displayed pictures of three locations at which the rubble, including the home owners’ personal belongings, was dumped.

The protesters said one of the home owners, Chang Sen-wen, was asked to pay NT$242,000 (US$8,000) in “moving expenses” after his house was demolished. This is the exact amount that Chang received from the county government in compensation for the expropriation of his six ping (19.8 square meter) home, the demonstrators said.

Perng Ming-hwei, professor emeritus at National Tsing Hua University in Hsinchu in northern Taiwan, said at the protest that there are already too many science parks in Taiwan and they have a very low utilization rate.

Also on Tuesday, police arrested Hsu Shih-jung, a land economics professor at the National Chengchi University in Taipei, for attempting to breach a restricted area in front of the new Ministry of Health and Welfare. President Ma was scheduled to attend a ceremony there at around 11 am to inaugurate the ministry.

Hsu, along with a student from Taipei’s National Taiwan University and other protesters against the Dapu demolition case, were there to try to petition Ma but were repeatedly chased away by the police. Hsu and the student, surnamed Lu, were later taken to a nearby police station.

Police said both of them may be charged with disrupting public order and obstructing an officer in discharge of his duties.
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Miaoli magistrate hails ‘god-given’ chance to demolish 4 Dapu homes

CNA 2013-07-20 09:14 (GMT+8)
The four homes were at the center of a dispute between homeowners and the local government. (Photo/Wang Chih-huang)
The four homes were at the center of a dispute between homeowners and the local government. (Photo/Wang Chih-huang)

Four homes that were at the center of a dispute between homeowners and the local government in Miaoli county in northern Taiwan on whether they should be torn down to make way for a planned industrial park were demolished on Thursday.

Following months of debate and confrontation over the issue, county magistrate Liu Cheng-hung on Thursday saw what he described as a “god-given” window of opportunity to send in a demolition team to remove the homes.

Liu said he made the decision when he learned that both pro and con camps were visiting Taipei to air their respective views regarding the demolition of the four hold-out homes in the Dapu district of the Chunan industrial park area.

Some 900 homes had already been demolished in the area, but one of the homeowners of the four remaining properties insisted on keeping their ancestral home and another refused to budge in protest against the county government’s heavy handed bulldozing of their rice field at the time of harvesting.

They quickly amassed support from civic groups and others and had held petitions and protest to highlight their rights and cause.

Escorted by a strong police presence, the demolition team on Thursday tore down a six-ping (19.8 square meter) drug store, a 1.3-ping (4.3 sq m) shanty house, homeowner Ko Cheng-fu’s entire house and the wall of another family’s garden in spite of strong resistance from property owners, activists and supporters.

The demolition work was originally scheduled for July 22, Liu said, but he got word Wednesday night that two major groups supporting the four families would be going on a petitioning trip to Taipei Thursday morning.

Pro-government groups, led by county council speaker You Chung-tien, were also visiting the capital to make their case. These include homeowners in the vicinity whose houses had already been torn down in preparation for building the industrial park.

“This is a god-sent opportunity,” Liu said, adding that he would not let it slip away. “So we decided to move ahead the schedule” as there would be less chance for conflicts and scuffles would occur without the presence of the homeowners and their supporters and those who support the plan, he said.

Cheng Li-wun, spokeswoman for the Executive Yuan, said the Cabinet respects the local government’s authority to do what it should “according to law and according to a resolution of the urban planning committee of the Ministry of the Interior.”

Wu Yi-chen, a lawmaker of the opposition Democratic Progressive Party, criticized the local government for taking advantage of some of the homeowners’ absence — an act that she said would only aggravate their grievances against the government. “The county government should apologize and give the people a good explanation,” she said.

The dispute over the local government plan to demolish the four houses in the county’s Chunan township continued after a meeting called by Vice President Wu Den-yih on the issue on July 6 ended inconclusively.

The residents of the Dapu area began their protest against the demolition order in July 2010, which led to intervention by Wu, who had asked the county government for a postponement. The protesters and their supporters said Wu promised that the homes should not be demolished.
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I was going to comment,decided not to. :slight_smile:

What did the houses look like before? Face it, 4/5th of Taiwan should be demolished from an aesthetic point of view.

Ups… should have followed the wisdom of the poster above.

Ehhh, Bob we all agree with you on that one, but that doesn’t change the fact that by forcing citizens out of their homes and demolishing them without giving anything close to proper compensation really blurs the line between the KMT and the Chinese Communist Party.

Guys, these houses and their land are being expropriated, not renewed. In one notorious case a family received around NT200,000 in compensation but were charged exactly the same for the township wreckers to move their stuff.

Taiwan is one of the worst abusers in the world. In most countries it is extremely difficult to expropriate land. The courts look on it unfavorably. Here, in a recent case the courts said, well, you were paid some money so what is the problem.

It’s really a disgrace and actually worse than the CCP in that they legally own all land in China and so can do what they want with it.

Yes, the judgement was that you have a right to somewhere to live but not the exact house. Something to that effect.
Which is true within reason, the problem I have is that Taiwan’s local governments are so corrupt that they are going around basically stealing land at below low prices in cahoots with developers under the pretense of building ‘science parks’ or whatever scheme they have concocted in the neighbourhood.

The logic used to excuse this government sponsored kleptocracy is different, but in the end it’s a very similar modus operanda to the PRC across the strait.

Add in the weakness of the courts, and yep, a very corrupt system. How are laws where you are from, or in Europe in general? In Canada it is near impossible to expropriate land. In the US a little easier but still very difficult.

Oh yeah, and yesterday’s papers reported that they demolished the houses while the people were protesting in Taipei. The county head literally said he could not let this perfect opportunity go by.

Can someone explain to me why the college professor was arrested? They charged him with “endangering public safety”. Logic too dangerous?

The people couldn’t even get their clothes out. Or family albums. As someone who also lives in an old gonwu scheduled for demolition, I cannot imagine how horrible it would b to come back and find the house on the ground. Won’t ask about pets.

And this is not an isolated case. There is the one close to CKS, too, also ridiculously cruel. What’s the point of all these land grabbing? Are they so sure they will lose next election -or making sure they will lose next election- that they are just filling their pockets to survive the winter of 4 years as opposition?

Here’s some stuff on the protests:

theparticipantobserverblog.blogs … nt-as.html

youtube.com/watch?feature=p … T0Bw#at=79

The politicians and their supporters make their money back from these land grabbing schemes. They know they can get away with it under the pretext of industrial development or urban renewal and the farm>residential or farm>industrial rezoning is the most lucrative of all.
What’s behind it now…just because they can get away with it I guess, it seems like open season at the moment doesn’t it? I guess you are right Icon that they know that they better fill their pockets now.

This simply wouldn’t happen in most of Europe (can’t speak for Eastern Europe), you have to go through a thorough review process and the landowners are entitled to compensation values on the open market. If the local government tried a stunt like in Dapu they’d be turfed our or much much worse! You simply couldn’t do it where I’m from due to our history of forced evictions in the 19th century, it would generate a violent kickback.

Taiwanese are easy to control , easy to buy off and intimidate etc and certainly easy to buy votes from. I’d say overall though that there are people who care but the general mass of people are apathetic. I mean they did vote this government and local governments in!

It is one of wake up calls for me. I have enough with this government. It didn’t push hard enough for solving problem, include urban redevelopment, land expropriate and unaffordable housing price.

One of the biggest problems with Taiwan’s court systems is that the average person (所謂的老百姓) has no idea how to utilize it in his own defense. That, and there’s no guarantee that knowing how to use the courts would get you anywhere (沒什麼屁用). Speaking from second-hand experience here, but not in relation to housing rights.

Okay, after finally having read the long text of the OP this really sounds like the PRC. Seizing the land, not paying for it (in the end). WTF? I always had the feeling Taiwan is approaching the PRC conditions with horse steps ( :laughing: ) rather than mice steps, but I did not know we are that far yet.

Law already meets Dapu protesters’ demand: Jiang

By Ann Yu ,The China Post
July 26, 2013, 12:03 am TWN

TAIPEI, Taiwan – Premier Jiang Yi-huah (江宜樺) yesterday cited a 2011 Land Expropriation Act amendment in response to a demand from Dapu village protesters, saying that their requests are covered by the revision.

Outraged Dapu residents and their supporters continued their protest yesterday, issuing demands for changes to the law, compensation and apologies following the sudden demolishment of their houses last Thursday.

There have been on-and-off protests since 2010 when the Miaoli County Government initiated a compulsory land acquisition for the construction of a science park. At that time then-Premier Wu Den-yih (吳敦義) allegedly gave word that the houses would remain untouched.

According to Cabinet spokeswoman Cheng Li-wun (鄭麗文), in the face of calls for the law to protect usable farmland from government-sanctioned takeover, Jiang cited an amendment to the Land Expropriation Act made in 2011 after a consensus was reached between Wu, Dapu protesters and experts.

Citing the amendment, Cheng read out to the press the act, which she said covers the protection of fallow farmland for development projects in favor of untillable farmland. The amendment also requires the government to consider whether expropriating agricultural land is in the public interest and is necessary.

Cheng quoted Jiang as saying that the act mandates the involvement of citizens in a public hearing before the government decides to expropriate private land.

“The amendment was passed on Dec. 13, 2011, after numerous discussions between Dapu protesters and government officials,” Cheng said.

”Many Dapu villagers were satisfied at the time with the amendment and the protest ceased.

“Recently, however, considering that four households in the Dapu area have become traffic obstruction problems and have had unauthorized construction work, the Miaoli County Government and the Construction and Building Agency decided that the houses needed to go.

”The Cabinet respects the decisions of the local government,” she added.

Demonstrators have rebutted such government statements, saying that the population density of the new science park will be relatively low, which means it is not in the public interest.

Residents whose houses were destroyed also said that their location was used for apartment constructions that surrounded the science park.

”Why,” an angry household owner asked, “should I be asked to leave my house only to have another person live here?”

Dapu protesters continued their demonstration on Ketagalan Boulevard yesterday, with numerous artists and directors such as Leon Dai (戴立忍), Yang Li-chou (楊力州) and Ke Yi-zheng (柯一正) among them.

Artists have been taking to their Facebook pages to voice support with the Dapu villagers, calling the government “tyrants who tore down people’s houses.”

”Destruction of Dapu today, destruction of the government tomorrow,” protesters shouted, vowing to continue until the government has made amends.

If there is one thing I have learned to hate very deep inside me, it is the way KMT officials cite the law when they are destroying lives.

Btw, I love the new slogan: Today Dapu, Tomorrow the Government.

I hope the momentum continues.

youtube.com/watch?v=3FLzbskVnKI

Another protest

youtube.com/watch?v=YGzM_8oEq8s

Protesters occupied Hall of Ministry of Interior Building.

This is from the Chinapost (chinapost.com.tw/taiwan/national … s-push.htm)

The article also mentions that eventually only 4 families still opposed being allocated new farmland or any financial compensation. And for these 4 families people throw eggs and paint at government buildings and threaten office staff at the Executive Yuan? Is this “freedom” or “democracy”. Seems like mob terror to me.

What is going on in Dapu has nothing to do with housing prices by the way - different laws apply to inner city urban renewal. And before anyone starts whining about the exorbitant prices, consider this: everyone likes sidewalks, the MRT, clean roads, new buildings and convenience. The vast majority of people also welcomes that Taipei is often considered a “world city”. Now, who lives in the city centre of major world cities? Who can afford living by Times Square and who needs to live in the suburbs? It’s ridiculous that people demand 50 ping apartments right on the blue line in Da’an District for anything below 20,000,000 NT$.

[quote=“hsinhai78”]This is from the Chinapost (chinapost.com.tw/taiwan/national … s-push.htm)

The article also mentions that eventually only 4 families still opposed being allocated new farmland or any financial compensation. And for these 4 families people throw eggs and paint at government buildings and threaten office staff at the Executive Yuan? Is this “freedom” or “democracy”. Seems like mob terror to me.

What is going on in Dapu has nothing to do with housing prices by the way - different laws apply to inner city urban renewal. And before anyone starts whining about the exorbitant prices, consider this: everyone likes sidewalks, the MRT, clean roads, new buildings and convenience. The vast majority of people also welcomes that Taipei is often considered a “world city”. Now, who lives in the city centre of major world cities? Who can afford living by Times Square and who needs to live in the suburbs? It’s ridiculous that people demand 50 ping apartments right on the blue line in Da’an District for anything below 20,000,000 NT$.[/quote]

No, those prices are insane. Tell me anywhere else in the world where property prices are 30-40 times average earnings that is not in a bubble?

Oh and per ping prices in Da’an can get up to as million so you are off by half. You really want to suggest that a concrete box is worth a million US$? Just how provincial are you? :laughing:

In 2013:

Smart Taiwanese friends who have lived abroad always say that they won’t invest in Taipei property as they know it is not good value.

As much as Taipei has improved, it is still miles behind the west. There is nothing to justify those prices.

As for Dapu. We have no reason to trust MOI figures. None.

And in any case, in most civilized countries it is very very difficult for the gov to confiscate land. In Taiwan it is appalling easy. Why should anyone give up their farmland for a bloody useless science park? Taiwan has an over-abundance of them. They are purely land speculative ventures not avenues for improving the well being of people.

I knew when push came to shove your authoritarian impulses would come out again.

There are many things that are within the government’s legal rights but are not ethically justifiable, at least as far as the voting public is concerned. People aren’t getting upset over the fate of four families, as you suggest, but on fears that they will be next. It’s happened in two very high profile cases in the past year (or so), so what’s to indicate it won’t happen again? Incidents like this shake people’s faith in the government because it looks like officials have only their own plans in mind (which are typically profit-driven) rather than protecting the interests of the people.

You can go on ad infinitum about how the government did nothing illegal, but that’s not the issue here. People are protesting to change the laws because they are worried that Taiwan expropriations will start looking like those in China soon.

BTW, the Hsinchu Science Park made a statement saying it had nothing to do with the expropriations, so we have no idea what’s really motivating Liu.