Dealing with extreme silent treatment

No no. It’s abuse. Full stop.

I’ll assume this is a joke, at least for the second question. The first I assume so, given… Forumosa?

People need to read before commenting.

reading is hard for some, don’t discriminate

For some but laziness is the most common issue.

@Marco Does your lawyer handle divorce cases? From the looks of it this guy needs to get out of his marriage for his sake and the sake of his kid.

My advice:

  • collect written evidence of her abuse or manipulation (emails, text messages, etc.)
  • Collect unwritten evidence via sworn affidavits (testament to your character [ie. you aren’t the abusive party])
  • If you’ve been seeing a doctor collect the dates and times and reasons for the prescription to demonstrate how this has affected you
  • Prepare your finances where your spouse can’t drain your account
  • Make sure your visa is in order to stay in taiwan to prevent her interference
  • Talk to your boss and let them know that you’re planning to divorce an abusive spouse so if she tries to sabotage your job you’ve already insulated yourself
  • prepare a “getaway rental” in the event you need to leave the marital home until the assets are split/sold/whatever post-divorce
  • Talk to your child (I don’t know how old they are or if they are mature enough to understand the situation) and prepare them for the instability that’s likely about to happen
  • Get your kid’s passport and hold onto it so your wife doesn’t try to kidnap her

Lastly, you’ll need to come to terms with the fact your marriage is already dead. There’s no point in trying to salvage a corpse.

Take the time you need to grieve, talk to a therapist, and prepare to move on with your life with just you and your kids for a while.

In many cases, the spouse simply applies for a new passport and claims the old one was “lost.”

What he can (and should) do is file a request with both the Philippine DFA and MECO in Taiwan asking that no passport be issued to his daughter. Once that’s on file, she won’t be able to get a new one without his consent.

One thing that’s pretty ridiculous is how Taiwan handles this: only the citizen parent needs to give consent for a passport to be issued. If the other parent is a foreigner, they have zero say in the matter, there’s no way to object or even request a hold on issuance.

This is why many foreigners have their children kidnaped to Taiwan even when they think they have all the passports. (In countries like Australia/U.S. etc… you can leave on any passport.) So the mom will have a Taiwan passport expedited by using a recent or even old photo and then leave to Taiwan. - That’s why it is good to be a citizen lol (she would need your consent if you’re a Taiwanese… but you’re screwed if you’re a foreigner…)

basically God made Eve and Adam has been paying for it ever since.

my dear Dad used to say… Women…you can’t live with them and you can’t kill them.

he was not implying anything mind you.

long and short of it is that women are a mystery of the universe.
a lucky man is one that has a good working relationship with one…and that preferably is with his wife.

there is no “book” really as each relationship is its own kettle of worms and with some good stuff thrown in.

Often a man finds out after he marries someone that there is a hecka lot that is goin on that is not fun and sometimes that ends badly or it ends well… or it is still continuing between bad and ugly and sometimes good.

the only thing we can do with silent treatment is to practice your inner zen. just be yourself, watch tv, go hang out with your buds, go exercise, ride a bike.

on the animal level (and sometimes we can learn from animals). I have three rescue cats rescued since they were wee kittens. Now five years old, Ollie the 16 pounder has always fancied himself the leader of the pack. His sister doesnt agree and doesnt put up with his shit. The younger bro, the 8 pounder male used to just jump off the balcony and go about his biz the whole day and then return at night, they stayed out of each others way.
But then 3 years ago we moved to the city and i kept them all indoors as traffic was just literally outside the door and we have coyotes running around every now and then. Now we have the 16 pounder male and the 8 pounder male at odds with each other. Its not just a matter of size. Its personality. The 16 pounder is a bully but gets put in his place by his sister and also by the half wild cat kitten we have , the savannah who has NEVER even as a 2 month old when she came ever allowed the bully to bully her. The little one is actually the new terror of the house , everyone is afraid of her but she doesnt really attack anyone, but everyone knows not to attack her.

MOtto is you have to assert yourself.
The 8 pounder male in personality is like the little bookworm in school who is tiny but is a sweet boy and gets bullied by the high school jock, the footballer who is not all brains but is all brawn and likes to pick fights.
All he really has to do is take a page from the little savannah kitten and turn on the bully and chase him and give him a good couple bites and then …thats it. ! But no he is terrified and wont come out from under the bed when Ollie is in the room or the bedroom door is open even when Ollie is out in the living room

so now he lives in the bedroom and we have to make sure there is ample time for him to be locked in without ollie so he can at least move about the room.

Ideally Ollie and the sister should live with me and the little savannah and the 8 pounder male should live somewhere else!

because this foursome is a problem. The two males dont see eye to eye and the two girl cats dont see eye to eye either and fight occasionally.

now back to the human world. point is you are like me in the sense that we treat our women too softly too nice. And they dont fear us.

I dont want my woman to fear me, but her not fearing me means not respecting me. WE should be more like caveman men. WE be male and we should roar. Make sure they stay in their place. Of course you could find yourself with a knife in you one day but hey there is no perfect way.

blessed are those who live in harmony and unity with their mates, a lot of us have issues.

Divorce, she won’t change and your sanity is worth far far more than she gives value to it.

tend to agree but …problems wont go away completely. they have a child together and the woman is not wanting divorce she wants a man to house her and take care of her , one who she can give the silent treatment to. He has to learn to actually "enjoy " it and find his inner self . Let that be like water to a duck, just wash right off him. He has to find other things to enjoy and just be at peace at home. Many couples dont talk anymore and just co exist. Sad as it is, if that is that then that can be fine. Hav a man cave, be yourself do your thing. Develop interests outside the house, take your daugther with you. Let her stew in her own juice. Let her find her inner peach with her inner circle of people. Sometimes (often) marriage is a matter of co existence.

Be like the french, apparently all the husbands got mistresses and the wives have affairs. c’est la vie. Enjoy your new freedom.

She’s abusing you. Get divorced. After 10 years nothing is going to change. Otherwise you will grow old miserable and the stress will impact your long term health.

I’m sorry this is happening to you. IMO you need to extract yourself and your daughter from the situation immediately. No one deserves to be treated like this and I wish you all the best.

Hope things turn out well, no matter what avenue you decide to pursue to solve this problem. Sounds really horrible. Were it Reddit and not forumosa, where all manner of strange-but-true relationship stories end up, I’d assume it was fake. How you’ve put up with that for 10 years, I can’t imagine.

I’m sure somewhere in you there’s still love for her, but if it’s been 10 years and none of this behavior has changed… Some dogs can’t learn new tricks :sweat_smile:

Also, @Fuzzy_Barbecue

make VERY CERTAIN she does not see this; clear history on computer, open Forumosa in icognito mode. She seems like she mostly ignores you, but don’t want to run the risk of her discovering this… Serious chance of jumping ship and heading back to Phillipines with child

I don’t have anything to add that is better than this. Im not sure of the work/ money situation but it’s time to separate the finances in order to protect you and your daughter.

I feel bad for your wife. Clearly something more than culture messed her up. But to lock your kid in a dark room as punishment and to hide on a roof from you and ignore your for days on end while you have a nervous breakdown?

Nah. This woman is not an adult, nor is she willing to change. Take the money, take the kid and run. Not sure where you’re from Fuzz man, but is it possible to return, file for divorce there, and start anew? Doubt the laws in Taiwan will benefit you or give two shits.

Worst marriage ever. Know that you can leave it and really, imo, ya should. :folded_hands:

As a father I am so sad to hear what you had to endure, as I know exactly how that would affect me. Taking the kids away is just a no go.

Wow. Sorry to read that mate, but as from someone whos been there it looks like she’s got some mental health issues on the level of a personality disorder.

She won’t change. Seems like she isnt even interested in discussing the idea of her being in the wrong. You got a bad egg. Don’t stay with this woman. I know your daughter is your reason not to split up but growing up with a selfish woman like this is going to cause her trauma whatever you do.

This!

My mom is Filipina and my dad is Chinese.
As I remember when I’m a kid my mom also had those Tampo moments but they always discuss it amicably and they are happy in the long run.

RIP - Pa.

My younger sister always had those short circuit moments with the partner until I told them to try to communicate and resolve whatever issues.

Me - I also got “tampo moments” with my lady boss but I learn to let it be.
Work is important.

@Fuzzy_Barbecue is Taiwanese now.

But unfortunately his daughter isn’t and therein lies the rub.

If the daughter had Taiwanese citizenship, it would make things much easier.

At least regarding divorce and custody, etc.

Nothing makes the emotional toll easier.