Diplomatic relations: who's next?

To quell recent rumors, and to reduce the percentage of threads with “Trump” in the title, I invite the Forumosa Intelligence Unit :spy: to answer the following question: which country will be the next to switch recognition from Taipei to Beijing?

Countries can’t be listed individually because the maximum per poll is 20 options.

  • Africa (Burkina Faso, Swaziland)
  • Caribbean (Dominican Republic, Haiti, Saint Kitts & Nevis, Saint Lucia, Saint Vincent & the Grenadines)
  • Central/South America (Belize, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua, Panama, Paraguay)
  • Europe (Holy See)
  • Oceania (Kiribati, Marshall Islands, Nauru, Palau, Solomon Islands, Tuvalu)
  • status quo for at least 10 more years :expressionless:
  • actually, things will turn around soon :rainbow:

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African countries for sure, they are already allowing CCP backed firms to get into africa. Their “leaders” are allowing a new colonization of Africa by selling out to China.

Rome is probably the least likely.

I wish the Vatican would fuck off. Who needs relations with a bunch of child rapists?

Currently, it is more a problem of everyone at the door blocking each other’s way or there would have been an stampede.

Definetively there will be bad news in a few weeks, but it is not Taiwan’s fault. It is a fact that we do not have the resources to compete in size of bribe with China, and the current allies suffer from very corrupt governments at this junction. Hence, the danger. Even if Taiwan could, like in theold days, outpay China, it is not worth it anymore. And Taiwan itself needs those funds…to pay the18%.

The Vatican does not want to be with us either, but it depends on whether a Pope is willing to let China call the shots. Power is what they crave most, and the Vatican will not relinquish it either for a venture with little to gain - pity Western businesses did not learn from them. The Church has a very good standing in Taiwan, with lots of charities and good deeds. Scandals have been minimum, with some priests guilty only of falling in love with local gals and hence leaving the service, but that is no scandal at all nowadays.

It turns out things are turning around… sort of! :smile:

Btw, I suppose it doesn’t depend on formal relations, but don’t forget if you want to teach Italian and don’t have an Italian passport, you have another option! :grinning:

Its official language is Italian, but French is also widely used.

I think the chances of taking back the mainland is good with 13,500 knights. PLA isn’t prepared for Knights in armor swinging giant swords game of throne style.


But they have Matt Damon, don’t they? :crossed_swords:

Only so much as they can pay him
But he’s only good against lizards

Actually should Taiwan even really care anymore

So, one of eight voters was correct. :roll: Let’s try harder this time!

It’s possible to list each country separately (now that there are only 20), but that would make it harder and also leave out the status quo and reversal options.

  • Central/South America (Belize, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua, Paraguay
  • Caribbean (Dominican Republic, Haiti, St. Kitts & Nevis, St. Lucia, St. Vincent & the Grenadines)
  • Africa (Burkina Faso, Swaziland)
  • Oceania (Kiribati, Marshall Islands, Nauru, Palau, Solomon Islands, Tuvalu)
  • Europe (Holy See/Vatican City)
  • new ally coming soon! :rainbow:
  • prolonged status quo :expressionless:

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We’ll be right, we’ve still got the feckin’ pope.

The Sovereign Military Order of Malta is not Malta and it’s not a country. It’s an entity under international law, but it’s not a country by any means. More like a very religious club, so I’m not sure how that’s gonna help.

Knights, honey. Friggin’ knights! :smiley:

Who cares? Honestly the ‘unofficial relationships’ with the US and Japan are really the only ones that matter. The ROC exists and is a legitimate entity completely independent of which third world countries can be bribed into placing an embassy there.

I find Taiwanese obsession with international recognition endlessly frustrating. Their number one priority should be military deterrence and their defence relationship with the US. Palau isn’t going to keep the communists at bay.

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Economic integration with the world is the only factor that can ensure a certain international space for Taiwan.

Taiwanese should be more realistic: even if the Beijing authorities were to recognize an independent Taiwan, this would not suddenly mean more participation opportunities for Taiwan. A country of 23 million people would be very small and its economic problems - particularly the red supply chain and regional neighbors having made progress in the past decade - cannot be solved through independence.

But this is the kind of idiocratic priority setting you get with lawyers, political science graduates, and activists running the government.

In light of recent rumblings about Taipei-Vatican relations, the FIU is conducting a new poll.

Will the Holy See switch recognition to Beijing “very soon” (let’s say within one year)?

  • yes
  • no

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Froggers seems that if the Vatican goes, the rest will follow.

That would explain a single office for the “colonies”: Hong Kong, Macau and Taiwan.

Rats, it was so good while it lasted…

When I was there it was English and Maltese ?

The Order of Malta is in Rome, not Malta. It’s all very confusing. :sunglasses:

Yeah. They sure aren’t going to default on this.

Solomon Islands GDP is 1.5 billion USD.

It puts each of the island’s citizens in debt of $153000US.
The per capita annual production, not income, production is $2357.
There’s no way this can backfire.

Welcome to the People’s Republic of China’s next province.