I live in Shanghai and have been offered a public teaching job in Taiwan. I received the work permit a few days ago and am only waiting now on the background record check from California so that I can get my visa. My background check is over due - I am trying to find out why now. I did not have the cover letter that was attached to my fingerprint cards translated - I am afraid it has been kicked out of the system…anyway…there are only 2 places to get fingerprints done in China - both at great cost. Are there any options in Taiwan or Hong Kong? I am looking for ideas…
[quote=“pengyou”]I live in Shanghai and have been offered a public teaching job in Taiwan. I received the work permit a few days ago and am only waiting now on the background record check from California so that I can get my visa. My background check is over due - I am trying to find out why now. I did not have the cover letter that was attached to my fingerprint cards translated - I am afraid it has been kicked out of the system…anyway…there are only 2 places to get fingerprints done in China - both at great cost. Are there any options in Taiwan or Hong Kong? I am looking for ideas…[/quote]Any NIA (National Immigration Agency) branch has the capabilities to take your fingerprints on a standard 10 card. $100 NTD per sheet. Cheap, easy to get.
I am in your exact same position. I’m trying to get some fingerprints done but they are priced at 1500 RMB here in Shanghai. HELL NO.
I need it for a potential Korean visa. I was told on the Daves Korean forums (not like that’s a great place for resources) that you could do the prints yourselves. Indeed, I tried going to my local police station and they almost got angry at my request for some fingerprtining. Honestly the whole process is a big pain, not much that i can do really.
I am in your exact same position. I’m trying to get some fingerprints done but they are priced at 1500 RMB here in Shanghai. HELL NO.
I need it for a potential Korean visa. I was told on the Daves Korean forums (not like that’s a great place for resources) that you could do the prints yourselves. Indeed, I tried going to my local police station and they almost got angry at my request for some fingerprtining. Honestly the whole process is a big pain, not much that i can do really.[/quote]
You can do your own fingerprints if you want. I’ve known three individuals who went to the FBI website, downloaded their standard 10 card, then rolled their own fingerprints and submitted them to the FBI for their federal background checks. It works. However, it’s best if you have a friend roll your prints for you and also that you submit at least three 10 cards to make sure at least one of them is good enough to be accepted. One person did a poor job and only submitted one 10 card and it was rejected and they had to do it all over again. Second time they were accepted.
I am in your exact same position. I’m trying to get some fingerprints done but they are priced at 1500 RMB here in Shanghai. HELL NO.
I need it for a potential Korean visa. I was told on the Daves Korean forums (not like that’s a great place for resources) that you could do the prints yourselves. Indeed, I tried going to my local police station and they almost got angry at my request for some fingerprtining. Honestly the whole process is a big pain, not much that i can do really.[/quote]
You can do your own fingerprints if you want. I’ve known three individuals who went to the FBI website, downloaded their standard 10 card, then rolled their own fingerprints and submitted them to the FBI for their federal background checks. It works. However, it’s best if you have a friend roll your prints for you and also that you submit at least three 10 cards to make sure at least one of them is good enough to be accepted. One person did a poor job and only submitted one 10 card and it was rejected and they had to do it all over again. Second time they were accepted.[/quote]
Excellent! Do you know what ink they had to use? Can I use that red ink that they use for chopping seals??
no red ink
I am in your exact same position. I’m trying to get some fingerprints done but they are priced at 1500 RMB here in Shanghai. HELL NO.
I need it for a potential Korean visa. I was told on the Daves Korean forums (not like that’s a great place for resources) that you could do the prints yourselves. Indeed, I tried going to my local police station and they almost got angry at my request for some fingerprtining. Honestly the whole process is a big pain, not much that i can do really.[/quote]
You can do your own fingerprints if you want. I’ve known three individuals who went to the FBI website, downloaded their standard 10 card, then rolled their own fingerprints and submitted them to the FBI for their federal background checks. It works. However, it’s best if you have a friend roll your prints for you and also that you submit at least three 10 cards to make sure at least one of them is good enough to be accepted. One person did a poor job and only submitted one 10 card and it was rejected and they had to do it all over again. Second time they were accepted.[/quote]
Excellent! Do you know what ink they had to use? Can I use that red ink that they use for chopping seals??[/quote]
No red ink. You have to use black so it looks standard and also so the computers can read them. You don’t need any special “fingerprint” ink, but it should be black.
Check out these links to the FBI background check website. Good information here.
I am in your exact same position. I’m trying to get some fingerprints done but they are priced at 1500 RMB here in Shanghai. HELL NO.
I need it for a potential Korean visa. I was told on the Daves Korean forums (not like that’s a great place for resources) that you could do the prints yourselves. Indeed, I tried going to my local police station and they almost got angry at my request for some fingerprtining. Honestly the whole process is a big pain, not much that i can do really.[/quote]
You can do your own fingerprints if you want. I’ve known three individuals who went to the FBI website, downloaded their standard 10 card, then rolled their own fingerprints and submitted them to the FBI for their federal background checks. It works. However, it’s best if you have a friend roll your prints for you and also that you submit at least three 10 cards to make sure at least one of them is good enough to be accepted. One person did a poor job and only submitted one 10 card and it was rejected and they had to do it all over again. Second time they were accepted.[/quote]
Excellent! Do you know what ink they had to use? Can I use that red ink that they use for chopping seals??[/quote]
No red ink. You have to use black so it looks standard and also so the computers can read them. You don’t need any special “fingerprint” ink, but it should be black.
Check out these links to the FBI background check website. Good information here.
fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/backgr … to-the-fbi
fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/background-checks/faqs[/quote]
Very good information and much appreciated! Last question, what about the form that says: signature of official, Your NO OCA(whatever that means), Miscellaneous MNU, etc. Do i have to fill out everything or can i leave things blank? Or can i put NA?
[quote=“Rabidpie”][quote=“Northcoast Surfer”][quote=“Rabidpie”][quote=“Northcoast Surfer”][quote=“Rabidpie”][quote=“pengyou”]I live in Shanghai and have been offered a public teaching job in Taiwan. I received the work permit a few days ago and am only waiting now on the background record check from California so that I can get my visa. My background check is over due - I am trying to find out why now. I did not have the cover letter that was attached to my fingerprint cards translated - I am afraid it has been kicked out of the system…anyway…there are only 2 places to get fingerprints done in China - both at great cost. Are there any options in Taiwan or Hong Kong? I am looking for ideas…[/quote]I am in your exact same position. I’m trying to get some fingerprints done but they are priced at 1500 RMB here in Shanghai. HELL NO.
I need it for a potential Korean visa. I was told on the Daves Korean forums (not like that’s a great place for resources) that you could do the prints yourselves. Indeed, I tried going to my local police station and they almost got angry at my request for some fingerprtining. Honestly the whole process is a big pain, not much that i can do really.[/quote]You can do your own fingerprints if you want. I’ve known three individuals who went to the FBI website, downloaded their standard 10 card, then rolled their own fingerprints and submitted them to the FBI for their federal background checks. It works. However, it’s best if you have a friend roll your prints for you and also that you submit at least three 10 cards to make sure at least one of them is good enough to be accepted. One person did a poor job and only submitted one 10 card and it was rejected and they had to do it all over again. Second time they were accepted.[/quote]Excellent! Do you know what ink they had to use? Can I use that red ink that they use for chopping seals??[/quote]No red ink. You have to use black so it looks standard and also so the computers can read them. You don’t need any special “fingerprint” ink, but it should be black.
Check out these links to the FBI background check website. Good information here.
fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/backgr … to-the-fbi
fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/background-checks/faqs[/quote]
Very good information and much appreciated! Last question, what about the form that says: signature of official, Your NO OCA(whatever that means), Miscellaneous MNU, etc. Do i have to fill out everything or can i leave things blank? Or can i put NA?[/quote]
Here’s the link to the 10 card. The back page has all the information and instructions on how to fill it out.
Deviating from the topic a little, and a stupid question maybe, but if you send in your own prints, how does the FBI know they are really yours?
That is an excellent question. Please call the FBI CJIS Customer service number and find out. Then report back here to the forums and let everyone know the answer. Here’s the number—>(304)625-5590.
My thoughts exactly…how do they know?
That is an excellent question. Please call the FBI CJIS Customer service number and find out. Then report back here to the forums and let everyone know the answer. Here’s the number—>(304)625-5590.[/quote]
That lady that answers the phone sure is one unpleasent lady.
That is an excellent question. Please call the FBI CJIS Customer service number and find out. Then report back here to the forums and let everyone know the answer. Here’s the number—>(304)625-5590.[/quote]That lady that answers the phone sure is one unpleasent lady.[/quote]It’s a computer answering machine with menu system. For______please press 1, etc.!!! :roflmao:
Super Hans & pengyou - It’s very easy for the FBI to know whether or not submitted fingerprints are mine because I’ve been in IAFIS since I was 16 years old! As for others, I have no idea how they would know if they were yours or not. It would be fun to do a test run and submit someone’s fingerprints with another’s name, but that would be a felony, so let’s not do it…ok?
I was just curious. If one were a convicted felon and one’s fingerprints were on record, I’d imagine that it wouldn’t play on a felon’s conscience too much if he submitted someone else’s in lieu of his or her own.
It just seems very strange to me that an agency like the FBI would allow fingerprints to be sent in by post as there is no way to verify that these are actually the real prints unless the real prints are already on record somewhere.
Of course, I’m not suggesting that you do it, I was just wondering about the logic behind the thinking of the FBI, and it struck me as strange.
[quote=“Northcoast Surfer”]
No red ink. You have to use black so it looks standard and also so the computers can read them.[/quote]
That’s rubbish! I am quite sure that according to CSI Miami their computer can lift prints of a three week old dead rat, submersed in turpentine and still tell the police where and when the murder occurred. Have you not witnessed the ability of their modern computers? :ohreally: You don’t even need to submit prints. You can simply cum in an envelope and send it to them. They’ll know exactly who you are and even which speeding tickets you are latent in paying.
[quote=“Super Hans”]I was just curious. If one were a convicted felon and one’s fingerprints were on record, I’d imagine that it wouldn’t play on a felon’s conscience too much if he submitted someone else’s in lieu of his or her own.
It just seems very strange to me that an agency like the FBI would allow fingerprints to be sent in by post as there is no way to verify that these are actually the real prints unless the real prints are already on record somewhere.
Of course, I’m not suggesting that you do it, I was just wondering about the logic behind the thinking of the FBI, and it struck me as strange.[/quote]
Ummm… Convicted felons have their names and fingerprints in the system… I’m pretty sure that a background check would sniff that out. And I doubt that those that have committed serious crimes and potentially left fingerprints are going to do a background check in their name.
You have a point, but the system still seems full of holes. I’m seriously considering making it big-time on the criminal stage. but before I do, I’m going to submit my grandfather’s fingerprints so the FBI have ‘my file’ to hand. Any prints left behind at a crime scene if I ever get caught won’t match mine, and I am sure there are many people with the name John Doe mucking around in the States.
Confused about a couple of issues.
First, what kind of visa requires the background check, besides the JFRV and an APRC?
Second, you say you are waiting for the records from California, but the replies all talk about FBI checks. Which do you need?
[quote=“CraigTPE”]First, what kind of visa requires the background check, besides the JFRV and an APRC?[/quote]As last reported, you can use either a state background check or the major pain in the ass FBI background check for applying for a JFRV. However, you are required to have the FBI background check for applying for the APRC or naturalization and a state background check will not suffice.
Regarding state background checks. All states are different and have different requirements. For a State of Washington background check, you can do the easy peasy name, birthdate, SSN background check which can be completed in a matter of minutes, or you can do the State of Washington fingerprint background check which takes weeks. Some states allow you to choose which one you want, some don’t have the option and simply require fingerprints. I don’t know about California. Also, some prospective employers require the fingerprint check and won’t accept the name, birthdate, SSN check.
So, for the OP, I would assume that his future employer is requiring a State of California fingerprint identification background check, or the FBI background check as a condition of future employment.
I don’t know, but would have to assume that if he were offered a job by Taipei American School, that he undoubtedly would be required to provide a fingerprint identification criminal record check AND probably it would need to be the FBI and not just the State of California. ![]()